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Posted by LAzerMANiac on Fri Feb 6th at 3:32pm 2004

Subway car blown up. at least 30 people dead, at least 200 injured, they are still taking the gibs out of the subway tunnel. I am not joking, about 30 people got literally gibbed. i want all our Russian members (like myself) to know that whoever did it will get punished. any thoughts? [addsig]



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Posted by Kage_Prototype on Fri Feb 6th at 3:35pm 2004

I read about that this morning. Gibbed eh? [addsig]



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Posted by Yak_Fighter on Fri Feb 6th at 4:07pm 2004

Chechens again? I doubt the Russian government is going to cave into some rebels just because of a bunch of bombings, it's more likely that they will just flatten Chechnya again... I really can't see how anyone can support the Chechens, but then again in this world...





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Posted by Forceflow on Fri Feb 6th at 4:15pm 2004

holy sh*t ...



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Posted by LAzerMANiac on Fri Feb 6th at 7:07pm 2004

the worst thing is, I used to live right acros the street from that subway station. [addsig]



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Posted by Orpheus on Fri Feb 6th at 7:08pm 2004

? posted by LAzerMANiac
the worst thing is, I used to live right acros the street from that subway station.

sounds like good news to me

[addsig]



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Posted by LAzerMANiac on Fri Feb 6th at 7:12pm 2004

I left Russia 3 years ago. my family's apartment was given to my grandparents. that's the worst thing. however, my grandparents and their cat were across Moscow for a car check-up that time. That's very fortunate. [addsig]



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Posted by Hornpipe2 on Fri Feb 6th at 9:45pm 2004

CNN.com makes it appear that lots of recent suicide bombings in Russia have been women. What's the deal? [addsig]



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Posted by fishy on Fri Feb 6th at 10:13pm 2004

the palestinians have started to use women suiciders in israel too, because they're harder to search. they've also got 'more places' to hide the explosives, so to speak.





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Posted by Leperous on Sat Feb 7th at 12:58am 2004

What proof do they have it was Chechens?! Methinks this is going to be a prime example of using 'terrorism' as a 'reason' to do things that should be unacceptable. It's a bloody modern day witch-hunt. But yes of course, I hope they do find the people responsible and make them rot in a gulag somewhere...



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Posted by Cash Car Star on Sat Feb 7th at 2:23am 2004

Russians have had many problems with the Chechens in the past. Remember that opera house s**tfest? Chechens. Something seriously s**tty is happening down there and the Russian government should really be looking at trying to find a good solution. What they have right now is just completely not working.





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Posted by Forceflow on Sat Feb 7th at 9:48am 2004

I've read that since december 2002 more than 300 people died in terrorist acts in Russia.





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Posted by Gwil on Sat Feb 7th at 2:38pm 2004

? posted by Cash Car Star

Russians have had many problems with the Chechens in the past. Remember that opera house s**tfest? Chechens. Something seriously s**tty is happening down there and the Russian government should really be looking at trying to find a good solution. What they have right now is just completely not working.

A) Like Leprous said, there is no proof that it is Chechen rebels who commited this atrocity - though it most likely is.

B) The Checnya troubles go WAAAAY back before the opera house, remember Yeltsins shenanigans with his conscript army being torn to pieces by guerrillas? The only way to shut them up (realistically) is to increase their rights/autonomous status or give them complete independence... something I can't see Putin doing anytime soon.

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Posted by Leperous on Sat Feb 7th at 2:41pm 2004

Maybe I'm being one-sided here, but like with the Palestinians, if these s**theads stop bombing everything and sort out their needs politically they're more likely to get somewhere. Oh boo hoo so Russia doesn't listen to us, there's other ways of getting your needs heard than killing innocent people. (*edit* i.e. international pressure- if you want your own country, you're going to need some good, clever people to do it, who should also be apt at arguing these points...)



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Posted by Gwil on Sat Feb 7th at 2:44pm 2004

Not necessarily, especially against uber-strong hardcore state leaders (Sharon for Israel, Putin for Russia) these things are nearly impossible to win over in certain countries.

Having said that, the Israelis are now actually dismantling their settlements in the Gaza strip and the west bank I believe - always a nice positive move forward... but will it say to the Chechens (et al, Tamil Tigers etc) that bombing does work?

Wait and see.... and of course, we can blame a lot of the problems on religion and colonialism... tssk - our mistakes always come back to haunt us!

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