*points doc to the planetdepends website i use for my pissing problem*

what ladies??....hell they either quit coming here, or gave up ages ago cash....

Doc B...

Covenant owns, they're great. I don't know much about how they look and stuff...haven't really looked at images of them or anything, but I like their music a lot, kinda wish they'd come to Canada soon

As for the whole gay thing, I don't think of myself as gay at all, there are other good looking guys out there but they're just that. Although my girlfriend tends to disagree with the guys I think are good looking, i.e. I think Viggo Mortensen is awesome but she's more into Orlando Bloom who I think is just a tart. I'm more a fan of the "man's man" a gruff Indiana Jones/Solid Snake kind of person. But it's all in a purely "that guys rules!" kind of thing.

i think its the musculature TB, as it would explain why my wife looks at me after seeing him , with utter contempt.... or maybe its just 25+years of marriage...

Doc B...

Obviously, men have the ability to recognize visual indicators of testosterone - doesn't make anyone gay. The bad part about this is that it leads men to believe women like guys only because they're good looking; that's just one way to have power.

From my (meager?) experience- confidence, style, independence, and humility are more important than raw looks. Most guys, if they dress decent and take care of themselves, clean up at least okay. The rest is what's important and you can work on it if you work on yourself as a person in general.

Confidence doesn't mean arrogance, or being a control freak. Real confidence is being relaxed & comfortable with yourself. Part of this comes from being independent, which I'll get back to in a second.

Confidence and style are also part of your body in a way. Confidence effects how you move, how you hold yourself, etc. I dance at clubs, which is a big turn on for women because most guys don't have the guts to do that (unless they are trashed). Style is important because it shows some individuality and whatnot. It can also- just as it does for women- 'show off the assets' so to speak.

Independence - Most guys, no matter how tough they try to act, are very insecure. Women pick up on it when a guy is doing that kind of self-conscious posturing, and when they are needy or possesive. You need to relax and have fun when you are with someone. If you act like you're going to be crushed if they don't like you... they probably won't. No one wants that kind of pressure on them, it's a total turn off (for men as well as women).

Humility is important because noone likes someone who can't laugh at themselves sometimes. It also shows you have self-confidence- enough that you can take a few hits and still feel good about yourself.

Finally... yeah being hot still probably doesn't hurt

wow I should write a book .

I think cash is just trying to get away with posting pics of half covered guys..

(i think ive just done this to myself now..)

weheee *runs*

I apologize, I thought it was funny but now you changed my mind! Here are some real goodness instead:

I searched google pics for macho.

Also, check out the TS forums male thread. I hate that forum but the men are sexy. http://forums.specialistsmod.net/viewtopic.php?t=10718

So, by your own definition a 'man' has to be

• Tall
• Briselly (is that spelt right?)
• Husky voice
• Voilent?

Maybe I'm taking what you said out of context, but I think that it a little shallow minded of you.