The new Firebird has arrived
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Re: The new Firebird has arrived
Posted by Forceflow on Fri Feb 20th at 7:08am 2004


Grab it at www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/

It's free, it's fast, and it's begging for snarkpit support !





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Re: The new Firebird has arrived
Posted by Edge Damodred on Fri Feb 20th at 7:50am 2004


Dammit I was hoping for the car, they discontinued it you know... [addsig]



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Re: The new Firebird has arrived
Posted by Crono on Fri Feb 20th at 8:58am 2004


Firebird/firefox just looks like a more user friendly version of Mozilla 1.5/1.6 lol

I support Mozilla 100%, it's a beautiful browser

Its sad that Netscape was bought out and turned into crap. Mozilla used to be the beta release of the next version of Netscape. Anyway, open-source for all! [addsig]




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Re: The new Firebird has arrived
Posted by scary_jeff on Fri Feb 20th at 11:14am 2004


I use firefox, and now when I have to use IE on the uni machines, it feels SO bad. Really it's a pain to use IE after you have got used to firefox.



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Re: The new Firebird has arrived
Posted by Leperous on Fri Feb 20th at 11:23am 2004


Pish, if it ever gets a decent DesignMode doowhalley (the WYSIWYG text editor here), then I'll move, otherwise there's hardly any difference between them

But yay, new version, now I have to manually delete Firebird, reinstall and resetup the Google toolbar (which doesn't seem to install properly), reinstall Flash, and sort out all my firewall settings again.





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Re: The new Firebird has arrived
Posted by Monqui on Fri Feb 20th at 1:59pm 2004


You don't need a google bar in Mozilla... One comes built in, and the browser actually can disable popups. [addsig]



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Re: The new Firebird has arrived
Posted by scary_jeff on Fri Feb 20th at 2:10pm 2004


You don't have to reinstall your plugins, just copy the plugins folder over from firebird. To be honest Lep, almost all of your criticisms of firebird/firefox have turn out to be untrue... If you simply don't want to use firefox, just say so. Don't make up a bunch of lame excuses that are not actually faults in the program, but holes in your knowledge of it.



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Re: The new Firebird has arrived
Posted by Leperous on Fri Feb 20th at 2:13pm 2004


I do need a Googlebar, it has extra functions that a simple search doesn't do (such as cached version, translated version, up a directory, site/image search, etc...) And fair enough about the plugins, perhaps it would be a good idea for them to mention that during the install But still, I haven't seen any reason to ditch IE for it.

*edit* Although yay I just found an IE bug, visit this website but put a question mark at the end of the URL instead of a slash- i.e. http://www.snarkpit.com?a and note how the images b0rk if you refresh, despite being listed as having the correct URL... (edit again- oo a slash is automatically added by IE if I try to make a link)





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Re: The new Firebird has arrived
Posted by Dr Brasso on Fri Feb 20th at 2:15pm 2004


? posted by Edge Damodred
Dammit I was hoping for the car, they discontinued it you know...

ill sell you mine edge...68 400...not stock by any means...its my garage car...

Doc Brass...

[addsig]




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Re: The new Firebird has arrived
Posted by matt on Fri Feb 20th at 3:12pm 2004


Just downloaded and installed it.

  • Its bland and boring and has few of the features IE does
  • It slows down by PC, which at least IE doesn't
  • It was 6MB and took me 20mins to load, and has all the features of IE 2.0
[addsig]




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Re: The new Firebird has arrived
Posted by Monqui on Fri Feb 20th at 3:57pm 2004


Name some of the "features" that it lacks... [addsig]



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Re: The new Firebird has arrived
Posted by Crono on Fri Feb 20th at 4:07pm 2004


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Just downloaded and installed it.

  • Its bland and boring and has few of the features IE does</li>
  • It slows down by PC, which at least IE doesn't</li>
  • It was 6MB and took me 20mins to load, and has all the features of IE 2.0</li>




. . . it's firefox. Firefox isn't the standard version of Mozilla (Thus the reason why I didn't download it). And what are you talking about?? IE Doesn't have anything for a "features" list. I mean, seriously, what are you counting as a feature? Favorites? The fact alone that the downloading agent built into the browser is better then the one built into IE is good for me (Oh and it's SMART pop-up blocker is beautiful). Now, if you're going to say "but, you can download a new download manager for IE" If you're willing to download something for Internet Explorer, because you want it to work well, but you don't want to download something for Mozilla (Which happens with 3rd party stuff), that will ADD to the browser (not replace features), then you have a picky attitude and a blind eye. Don't play favorites, I mean use what you like, I don't really care, but don't give Bull s**t reasons to say why you don't want to. Oh and for the record they use the same amount of System resources (Don't know about Firefox, but 1.6 never uses more then about 24k, maybe 30k while it's being used during load times, Internet Explorer uses like 30k ALWAYS on my system here.)

Anyway, don't take that the wrong way, but again, this is like the Linux argument, don't sit and bitch about which is better, because it doesn't matter, its your preference so it's going to be argued until the world stops spinning (Or the Universe Collapses on it's self). So, there's no point. (Oh and, from my experience with both browsers, I've found that overall Mozilla blows away internet explorer, in speed and functionality, but that's just me, doesn't mean you have to think that your self.) [addsig]




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Re: The new Firebird has arrived
Posted by matt on Fri Feb 20th at 4:12pm 2004


Hey I hate Microsoft as much as the next guy along, I'm just saying. And I stick to what I said. [addsig]



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Re: The new Firebird has arrived
Posted by Kage_Prototype on Fri Feb 20th at 5:02pm 2004


Crono, laying into the guy because he doesn't like Firefox, and then saying that there's no point in arguing over something like this, is a little hypocritical, no?

Anyway, I find firefox to be a lot faster than IE, and uses around 10,000k less memory when running as well. Plus all those cool little plugins are a nice touch. I'm not sure how you coud say it's slower, unless you actually installed Mozilla instead of Firefox, which is slower and more cumbersome than IE.

Oh, and about it being bland and boring, why don't you get a new theme/skin then? Some plugins as well can help out with that. Go Here for all your firefox needs. [addsig]




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Re: The new Firebird has arrived
Posted by Forceflow on Fri Feb 20th at 5:23pm 2004


Yep, kage, that's definitely the best FF resource site.

Check out the themes & extensions, ladies and gentlemen !





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Re: The new Firebird has arrived
Posted by Monqui on Fri Feb 20th at 5:30pm 2004


I'm kinda irked that they haven't ported over the "negative modern" skin quite yet, however... [addsig]



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Re: The new Firebird has arrived
Posted by scary_jeff on Fri Feb 20th at 8:52pm 2004


Matt your opinion that "it doesn't have the features of IE" is a complete joke if you fail to name one feature that IE has and it doesn't...



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Re: The new Firebird has arrived
Posted by Forceflow on Fri Feb 20th at 9:14pm 2004


He probably means the "general failure in kernel32.dll" and "javascript error. Continue ?" features.



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Re: The new Firebird has arrived
Posted by scary_jeff on Fri Feb 20th at 9:37pm 2004


a) they aren't features, b) i've never had a kernel error since I left windows98, and c) it's not mozilla's fault if a webdesigner can't right valid code.



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Re: The new Firebird has arrived
Posted by Hornpipe2 on Fri Feb 20th at 11:35pm 2004


Just downloaded it and installed it. In fact I'm posting this message with it right now. Much faster than Mozilla, and yet it still has tabbed browsing. Score! [addsig]




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