I'm liking it quite a bit so far... I just wish there was a way to get rid of that obnoxious "middle mouse button" browser helper thingy... I have the middle mouse button set to activate a mouse-gesture, and it gets in the way and bothers me.
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Re: The new Firebird has arrived
Posted by Monqui on Fri Feb 20th at 11:41pm 2004
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Posted by Monqui on Fri Feb 20th at 11:41pm 2004
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Re: The new Firebird has arrived
Posted by Crono on Sat Feb 21st at 12:47am 2004
Posted by Crono on Sat Feb 21st at 12:47am 2004
For the record, I love you Jeff, In a friendly non-gay way lol.
What I was saying in my post was that Firefox (from my experience) hasn't been as reliable and from the looks of their new version it seems to be a dumbed down version of Mozilla.
The rest of my post isn't hypocritical, because I'm not using Internet Explorer, I explained what the draw back to IE were, but I stated it's up to you which ever you use. How is that being hypocritical?? And, yeah Mozilla is much faster then IE, hands down. My main point was (besided the fact that I had woken up not ten minute before hand around 7 am or so lol) don't bitch. Unless the thread was made for someone to bitch about something, don't turn it into a bitching fest. Also, I wasn't laying into Matt. I was asking a question, the two question marks were to emphasise my astonishment at his remarks (because they're unfounded for the most part, it's just opinion stated as facts).
I also wasn't mad or anything, It was healthy discussion, however, I am annoyed at the whose better arguements. You're never going to get the other person to change, I mean they're definding their position for a reason, even if it might be just to piss you off. That's all. Its up to individual, but I can also state my opinion on the matter . . . that isn't being hypocritical or anything like that.
I haven't downloaded the 'faster' version because I don't really care about Mozilla being faster . . . it's fast enough for me as it is.
Anyway, Jeff, you're 100% right. Also, same here lol. I never get errors when using things, and obviously if I do, I can take care of the problem, but the thing is most developers don't create browser friendly pages, meaning they're specific to a certain browser for some reason. This happens a lot and it's annoying as hell, and in a sense it is Microsofts fault, because they changed the standard DOM. Now everyone has to encorperate thier quiet crappy DOM into their browser because they want to make it viable to Windows users. Anyway, it doesn't really matter. Use what you like, just what's the point of bashing the other guy? (I wasn't bashing Microsoft of it's browser, I was actually stating the differences, just maybe in a not so nice manner) anyway it seems its babble time for me again . . . [addsig]
What I was saying in my post was that Firefox (from my experience) hasn't been as reliable and from the looks of their new version it seems to be a dumbed down version of Mozilla.
The rest of my post isn't hypocritical, because I'm not using Internet Explorer, I explained what the draw back to IE were, but I stated it's up to you which ever you use. How is that being hypocritical?? And, yeah Mozilla is much faster then IE, hands down. My main point was (besided the fact that I had woken up not ten minute before hand around 7 am or so lol) don't bitch. Unless the thread was made for someone to bitch about something, don't turn it into a bitching fest. Also, I wasn't laying into Matt. I was asking a question, the two question marks were to emphasise my astonishment at his remarks (because they're unfounded for the most part, it's just opinion stated as facts).
I also wasn't mad or anything, It was healthy discussion, however, I am annoyed at the whose better arguements. You're never going to get the other person to change, I mean they're definding their position for a reason, even if it might be just to piss you off. That's all. Its up to individual, but I can also state my opinion on the matter . . . that isn't being hypocritical or anything like that.
I haven't downloaded the 'faster' version because I don't really care about Mozilla being faster . . . it's fast enough for me as it is.
Anyway, Jeff, you're 100% right. Also, same here lol. I never get errors when using things, and obviously if I do, I can take care of the problem, but the thing is most developers don't create browser friendly pages, meaning they're specific to a certain browser for some reason. This happens a lot and it's annoying as hell, and in a sense it is Microsofts fault, because they changed the standard DOM. Now everyone has to encorperate thier quiet crappy DOM into their browser because they want to make it viable to Windows users. Anyway, it doesn't really matter. Use what you like, just what's the point of bashing the other guy? (I wasn't bashing Microsoft of it's browser, I was actually stating the differences, just maybe in a not so nice manner) anyway it seems its babble time for me again . . . [addsig]
Re: The new Firebird has arrived
Posted by Kage_Prototype on Sat Feb 21st at 1:06am 2004
If you weren't laying into him, you could have done without the profanity and the multiple question marks, which pretty much implied that you were starting an argument. But fair enough if you didn't mean it, it just looked like it. I guess you should lay off posting 10 minutes after getting up; you seem to be a tad grumpy at that hour.
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Posted by Kage_Prototype on Sat Feb 21st at 1:06am 2004
| ? quote: |
| Don't play favorites, I mean use what you like, I don't really care, but don't give Bull s**t reasons to say why you don't want to. |
If you weren't laying into him, you could have done without the profanity and the multiple question marks, which pretty much implied that you were starting an argument. But fair enough if you didn't mean it, it just looked like it. I guess you should lay off posting 10 minutes after getting up; you seem to be a tad grumpy at that hour.
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Re: The new Firebird has arrived
Posted by Crono on Sat Feb 21st at 1:13am 2004
Posted by Crono on Sat Feb 21st at 1:13am 2004
No, it was more or less the moans and gripes around here about preference. What are you talking about bulls**t is such a casual phrase lol. I pretty much would have been irritated by reading that post at any moment, but I wasn't attacking him or anything, I was however, challenging him.
Wow, I'm really mis-spelling a lot of stuff today.
Anyway.
Use Mozilla if you want fast browsing and lower system strain, is all I've gotta say, but if you're looking for ease of use, as in click use, by all means use IE . . . however Mozilla is quite simple once you configure it once, and that's all the configuring you'd have to do
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Wow, I'm really mis-spelling a lot of stuff today.
Anyway.
Use Mozilla if you want fast browsing and lower system strain, is all I've gotta say, but if you're looking for ease of use, as in click use, by all means use IE . . . however Mozilla is quite simple once you configure it once, and that's all the configuring you'd have to do
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Re: The new Firebird has arrived
Posted by scary_jeff on Sat Feb 21st at 11:03am 2004
Posted by scary_jeff on Sat Feb 21st at 11:03am 2004
Crono, what a long post to say so little? 
I come accross pages mozilla won't display properly now and again, all it says to me is 'hah, foolish webmaster', and I don't go to that website again I think most webmasters realise that it is in their interest to make their site work with different browsers, so I don't see microsoft's own standards being a problem in the long term.
I come accross pages mozilla won't display properly now and again, all it says to me is 'hah, foolish webmaster', and I don't go to that website again
I think most webmasters realise that it is in their interest to make their site work with different browsers, so I don't see microsoft's own standards being a problem in the long term.
Re: The new Firebird has arrived
Posted by Crono on Sat Feb 21st at 8:26pm 2004
Posted by Crono on Sat Feb 21st at 8:26pm 2004
well see, they already are a problem. There are several things that have worked themselved into everyones DOM because of Microsoft. I mean there really ins't suppose to be a lot of stuff in there lol. Use konquerer on Linux and you'll see what I mean. Things like Javascript are suppose to be supported by a seperate plug-in (Sun's plug-in in Mozilla) but stuff that doesn't support it by default looks pretty werid lol. Try looking at a mouse over in Mozilla before you put in the Java plug-in . . .
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