I assure you I have no power here whatsoever, else I would long since have censured you for your obnoxious attitude.
I really love having my personal integrity questioned by someone who seems to do nothing but constantly snipe at people and provides no useful input/contribution whatsoever other than to claim how 'influential' he is all the time.
It really makes all the hours of my free time I've given up for this place worthwhile.
Tell you what, to reassure you completely, I'll just fuck off entirely. Sure beats putting up with your miserable trolling.
Re: ARCHIVE: Snarkpit v6 Feedback Thread
Posted by larchy on Tue Jan 5th at 8:22am 2010
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Posted by larchy on Tue Jan 5th at 8:22am 2010
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Re: ARCHIVE: Snarkpit v6 Feedback Thread
Posted by Orpheus on Tue Jan 5th at 9:24am 2010
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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Jan 5th at 9:24am 2010
Truth be told, I didn't even notice your cat until you brought it to my attention. I noticed them when I changed my avatar back to what it was 2 years back and was forced to see all those others in the avatar update section.
If you truly want to be upset, so be it, but I assure you that your hours have a long way yet to catch up to mine. Tis not my fault, at least not totally that I have been away so long. We don't even want to discuss sniping, when every time I look for something here its changed or moved. Not for the worse mind, just annoyingly altered. Its almost as if someone took a personal interest in altering practically everything I put into this place... Which I doubt you have that much interest in since you really don't know me If your last post is any judge.
I did chose to move to where I did. I didn't think it would be over 2 years for stupid DSL to get 6 lousy miles.
I refuse to apologize. If you feel that my comment was directed entirely at you it makes one wonder why. If however it will maintain the peace, I will endeavor to continue not noticing you.
I will assure you of one thing, if you took all the time that I invested into this site, threw away 80% of it as useless tripe and TROLLING, it would still be a substantial number of hours.
I said my peace. I suggest we drop it before we start comparing penis sizes like schoolyard bullies.
If you truly want to be upset, so be it, but I assure you that your hours have a long way yet to catch up to mine. Tis not my fault, at least not totally that I have been away so long. We don't even want to discuss sniping, when every time I look for something here its changed or moved. Not for the worse mind, just annoyingly altered. Its almost as if someone took a personal interest in altering practically everything I put into this place... Which I doubt you have that much interest in since you really don't know me If your last post is any judge.
I did chose to move to where I did. I didn't think it would be over 2 years for stupid DSL to get 6 lousy miles.
I refuse to apologize. If you feel that my comment was directed entirely at you it makes one wonder why. If however it will maintain the peace, I will endeavor to continue not noticing you.
I will assure you of one thing, if you took all the time that I invested into this site, threw away 80% of it as useless tripe and TROLLING, it would still be a substantial number of hours.
I said my peace. I suggest we drop it before we start comparing penis sizes like schoolyard bullies.
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Re: ARCHIVE: Snarkpit v6 Feedback Thread
Posted by larchy on Tue Jan 5th at 11:57am 2010
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Posted by larchy on Tue Jan 5th at 11:57am 2010
You're complaining that the people 'in charge' are going to wreck the site because they like cats?
I'm the web coder and I like cats, and made some default cat avatars - so exactly who else would you be directing your paranoia at given noone else has anything to do with that stuff? Just more of your random shit-hurling? Well it's landed in the wrong place this time.
I don't give a fk what you've done in the past, but it's pretty obvious to me we're better off without your input. One of the things Gwil mentioned to me when we were originally talking about redoing the site was his dislike of the way the old admins who had abandoned the place used to have it set up as though they were superior to everyone else, with stupid titles like 'lord' and 'peon' or whatever it was. It's fairly clear from your banging on about all you 'great' ideas and suggesting things like having negative 'points' to tell people who you consider 'asswipes' to be that you subscribe to that rather patronising viewpoint. Way to alienate people.
Every time you post you have a go at people - a lot of people asked for the post edit time limit, and just because you don't like it you start hurling insults around randomly at 'whoever suggested it' instead of saying something like "hey guys, I don't feel this is working. How about we make a change like this.... "
Muhnay made a pretty good suggestion trying to help you in your AVI thread, and yet Mr Superior can only manage a snotty response which was actually based on total crap and, yet again, a lack of basic knowledge about the subject matter.
And that's just in the past week.
The only reason I'm even here is because I'll help if I can and noone else seems capable of doing any coding. I don't claim to be anything marvellous or be putting massive amounts of time in as I've only hung around as a courtesy to help out a community site (which I know from experience is hard to keep running and finding people to work on) - so your willy waving about your time really means fuck all to me - but I've really got better things to do than stick around somewhere with someone as acerbic as you constantly picking holes and never offering anything constructive.
When I first redid the site I came up with a design the Gwil liked, made everything and had a Beta site up for months. Yet despite all that time I got no help or feedback from the likes of you, only a huge great post about how bad everything was as soon as the new site went up. Ditto when anything else new has been introduced - and you've never bothered yourself to get involved when people like Muhnay were helping to design gfx etc
So stuff you tbh, and yes you are a complete and utter troll - randomly threatening to use your 'powerful influence' to ban people over nothing... wtf do you think you are? How can you think that's anthing a normal person would even post is beyond me. Your attitude totally stinks.
Have a talk with Riven as he's the main guy here now... I can easily just leave everything and you can take over Mr Influential and Powerful - I'm sure everything will be much better since your contributions obviously dwarf everyone else's and you're personally so much more intelligent and knowledgeable about everything.
I'm the web coder and I like cats, and made some default cat avatars - so exactly who else would you be directing your paranoia at given noone else has anything to do with that stuff? Just more of your random shit-hurling? Well it's landed in the wrong place this time.
I don't give a fk what you've done in the past, but it's pretty obvious to me we're better off without your input. One of the things Gwil mentioned to me when we were originally talking about redoing the site was his dislike of the way the old admins who had abandoned the place used to have it set up as though they were superior to everyone else, with stupid titles like 'lord' and 'peon' or whatever it was. It's fairly clear from your banging on about all you 'great' ideas and suggesting things like having negative 'points' to tell people who you consider 'asswipes' to be that you subscribe to that rather patronising viewpoint. Way to alienate people.
Every time you post you have a go at people - a lot of people asked for the post edit time limit, and just because you don't like it you start hurling insults around randomly at 'whoever suggested it' instead of saying something like "hey guys, I don't feel this is working. How about we make a change like this.... "
Muhnay made a pretty good suggestion trying to help you in your AVI thread, and yet Mr Superior can only manage a snotty response which was actually based on total crap and, yet again, a lack of basic knowledge about the subject matter.
And that's just in the past week.
The only reason I'm even here is because I'll help if I can and noone else seems capable of doing any coding. I don't claim to be anything marvellous or be putting massive amounts of time in as I've only hung around as a courtesy to help out a community site (which I know from experience is hard to keep running and finding people to work on) - so your willy waving about your time really means fuck all to me - but I've really got better things to do than stick around somewhere with someone as acerbic as you constantly picking holes and never offering anything constructive.
When I first redid the site I came up with a design the Gwil liked, made everything and had a Beta site up for months. Yet despite all that time I got no help or feedback from the likes of you, only a huge great post about how bad everything was as soon as the new site went up. Ditto when anything else new has been introduced - and you've never bothered yourself to get involved when people like Muhnay were helping to design gfx etc
So stuff you tbh, and yes you are a complete and utter troll - randomly threatening to use your 'powerful influence' to ban people over nothing... wtf do you think you are? How can you think that's anthing a normal person would even post is beyond me. Your attitude totally stinks.
Have a talk with Riven as he's the main guy here now... I can easily just leave everything and you can take over Mr Influential and Powerful - I'm sure everything will be much better since your contributions obviously dwarf everyone else's and you're personally so much more intelligent and knowledgeable about everything.
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Re: ARCHIVE: Snarkpit v6 Feedback Thread
Posted by G4MER on Tue Jan 5th at 12:00pm 2010
Posted by G4MER on Tue Jan 5th at 12:00pm 2010
You know what, FUCK YOU ORPHEUS. How about you crawl back under that rock of yours and disappear for a while longer. Don't come in here and start your old fart shit with Larchy, he puts countless hours off site to improve and maintain this site. What have you done?
And as far as Penis size.. you win, your definitely a bigger Dick.
And as far as Penis size.. you win, your definitely a bigger Dick.
Re: ARCHIVE: Snarkpit v6 Feedback Thread
Posted by Orpheus on Tue Jan 5th at 1:54pm 2010
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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Jan 5th at 1:54pm 2010
*sighs*
New members. You always have to endure the break in period until the finally see that not everyone is going to fit into their molds.
As for my accomplishments.. As I look over Snarkpit there are almost no signs of it any longer, so your comments hold water as far as that goes.
My Snarkmark count, THE ONLY METHOD I can point to no longer reflects anything I've done. Whether I answered one editing question, or a thousand, the system claims naught. 1/2 of my tutorials are missing. Granted, they only marginally assisted anyone, but Snarkpit has many stupid tuts... But they're stil missing.
My hundreds of critiques, never made it into the Snarkmark system at all.
Finally a newbie, A webcoder tells me I've contributed nada and I'm supposed to be silent..
Did we need a new coder? Sure. Leps system was in serious need of refining. Did we need a web coder whom won't even look into a 2.5 year old missing ex member? Possibly.
The cat comment was and remains a very touchy subject for me. I will defend Snarkpit with every ounce of energy, AND YES, influence I possess. If you are innocent, then we have only a misunderstanding about CATS!!!!
If I find out otherwise...
Lets see if this remains ONLY a misunderstanding about cats.
I've been in err before, and will prolly do so many time in the future, but a misunderstanding about cats....
Once upon a time I had thousands of Snarkmarks, now I'm a nobody because I only have 1400..
Go figure..........
/subject
New members. You always have to endure the break in period until the finally see that not everyone is going to fit into their molds.
As for my accomplishments.. As I look over Snarkpit there are almost no signs of it any longer, so your comments hold water as far as that goes.
My Snarkmark count, THE ONLY METHOD I can point to no longer reflects anything I've done. Whether I answered one editing question, or a thousand, the system claims naught. 1/2 of my tutorials are missing. Granted, they only marginally assisted anyone, but Snarkpit has many stupid tuts... But they're stil missing.
My hundreds of critiques, never made it into the Snarkmark system at all.
Finally a newbie, A webcoder tells me I've contributed nada and I'm supposed to be silent..
Did we need a new coder? Sure. Leps system was in serious need of refining. Did we need a web coder whom won't even look into a 2.5 year old missing ex member? Possibly.
The cat comment was and remains a very touchy subject for me. I will defend Snarkpit with every ounce of energy, AND YES, influence I possess. If you are innocent, then we have only a misunderstanding about CATS!!!!
If I find out otherwise...
Lets see if this remains ONLY a misunderstanding about cats.
I've been in err before, and will prolly do so many time in the future, but a misunderstanding about cats....
Once upon a time I had thousands of Snarkmarks, now I'm a nobody because I only have 1400..
Go figure..........
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Re: ARCHIVE: Snarkpit v6 Feedback Thread
Posted by Gwil on Tue Jan 5th at 4:41pm 2010
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Posted by Gwil on Tue Jan 5th at 4:41pm 2010
Orpheus, get over yourself. Both larchy and Muhnay have worked to get the site completely refreshed and running efficiently. Much of the time larchy has put in has been off his own back and I - and i'm pretty sure everyone else - don't appreciate you wading in and calling a role as king maker.
If you can't get along with the new changes or the current membership, the best advice I can give to you is to leave. Negative trolling helps noone here and if you persist in this churlish attitude most unbecoming of a man of your age I won't hesitate to consider getting rid of you myself.
edit: I can't speak for Riven but I suspect he supports larchy just as much as I - and those two guys have pretty much worked harder than anyone else to rebuild the site to a better standard. It is a shame that the effort is acknowledge only with complaints and chuntering.
If you can't get along with the new changes or the current membership, the best advice I can give to you is to leave. Negative trolling helps noone here and if you persist in this churlish attitude most unbecoming of a man of your age I won't hesitate to consider getting rid of you myself.
edit: I can't speak for Riven but I suspect he supports larchy just as much as I - and those two guys have pretty much worked harder than anyone else to rebuild the site to a better standard. It is a shame that the effort is acknowledge only with complaints and chuntering.
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Re: ARCHIVE: Snarkpit v6 Feedback Thread
Posted by Orpheus on Tue Jan 5th at 5:46pm 2010
Gwil, I'm looking you dead in the eye when I ask, Is that truly all you got out of all that mess? Knowing my dedication to this site, is that truly all you got?
I am prepared to grant your wishes, just be sure of your request.
You cannot expect me to remain calm, seeing everything I worked for altered. You know as well as I that if I could have been here during the revamping, I would have been.
I admit changes were needed, but one cannot expect it to be a smooth, or shock free transition.
Besides, all I did was complain, STRONGLY about the god awful cats.
I await your reply.
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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Jan 5th at 5:46pm 2010
Gwil, I'm looking you dead in the eye when I ask, Is that truly all you got out of all that mess? Knowing my dedication to this site, is that truly all you got?
I am prepared to grant your wishes, just be sure of your request.
You cannot expect me to remain calm, seeing everything I worked for altered. You know as well as I that if I could have been here during the revamping, I would have been.
I admit changes were needed, but one cannot expect it to be a smooth, or shock free transition.
Besides, all I did was complain, STRONGLY about the god awful cats.
I await your reply.
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Re: ARCHIVE: Snarkpit v6 Feedback Thread
Posted by Riven on Wed Jan 6th at 2:35am 2010
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Posted by Riven on Wed Jan 6th at 2:35am 2010
I for one am glad we have an old pair of eyes to look upon the new site. However, I'm not so glad he had to come within the throws of a shit-storm. I'm a short-term realist, and a long-term idealist. Therefore, I'd only like to see this thread get back on track.
Please
Nevertheless, I don't think anyone should have to adapt themselves for Orpheus or vice versa. There are no 'molds' to be cast for others to fit. We're all individuals here and all have the common goal of making The Pit a better place.
@Orph: I understand your lament for all your lost work from the old Pit, and not only yours but everyone else's was taken into account when that transition was made. Having to re-establish your creditability should be unnecessary as this site is still a WIP. Larchy has gotten us over a great hump in the way of re-thinking this site's layout and interface. I can only applaud him and everyone else who has offered time to comment & work on it (Muhnay included). Do I miss the old Pit? -Of course; that's what we were all familiar with. Do I think the new Pit is an improvement? -I sure do. You know why? -Because everyone involved is wanting it to be so.
If say in about 10 years time, someone else comes along and persuades everyone to re-code, and re-design the site I've put so much time into supporting, and they go through with it. Would I be upset? -I sure would. Would I think the new site inferior? -Probably; but if I cared enough, I would want to help them make it better, while listening to all the reasons for why they even bothered changing it in the first place. Would they listen to me? -Only if I could show the evidence of my past efforts as proof-positive, then perhaps I'd have a NEW standing amongst them. Trying to re-establish my credibility won't prove anything to them. Subjective opinions are THE WORST form of evidence in science. I can't make them listen to me. I was gone for a while, and now regardless of all my past points and medals, I have to make-up for it. Snarkmarks ARE indeed still a sign of respect here at the Pit, but let's not abuse the 'power.' Noobs to the Pit or not, these folks still care as much about it as you do, regardless of the amount of effort put into it. I know you understand all this already, but it deserves mentioning as a playing-field leveler.
I care about your opinions Orph, I really do, but comments like this:
Just feels like a threat to anyone ready to take it that way. You know just as well as anyone else that influence is not established, it is earned. So asking for it or calling people out over it is just impolite regardless of how strongly you feel. And politeness goes a LONG way on the internet.
But I'm just 20, so what do I know?
I don't mean to call you out Orph, but I do recognize you as an influential force in your own defense, at least for anyone administering a site like this. If Orph has something to say, somebody's not going to like it
And it should go mentioning about some of the retaliatory remarks made. -Come on guys,
I know anger can be the most powerful emotion motivator of posts, but do we really need all this cluttering? my response is already long enough 
Now in an effort to get this thread back on track, (if others are still reading this
) I'll try and address some of your concerns Orph:
SnarkMark difference: The reason for the snarkmark difference is due to a new consensus on calculation. The old method was agreeably convoluted and probably unfair, so a new equation was deliberated on and you can now find your calculation in the new control Panel Larchy implemented up top. The ratio remains about the same to other users new and old, and you can think of Snarkmarks now being worth MUCH more than they were before. You still have an ass-load of marks compared to everyone else so nothing to fear.
We did have cases of missing maps and I think maybe some downloads, but if you're sure there are plenty more items missing, please inform us. This is a consequence of mass DB transferal FROM Globat. <Which as you remember, was a sucky host 
and may be recoverable, if you just point us in the right direction.
I'm not sure about any other concerns you've had past the last two pages of this thread, but please, if you have any more, be sure to post them or direct them to me! -Which you don't need to be told anyway
That's a GOOD SnarkPit; there, there...
End of ridiculously LONG post.
Please
Nevertheless, I don't think anyone should have to adapt themselves for Orpheus or vice versa. There are no 'molds' to be cast for others to fit. We're all individuals here and all have the common goal of making The Pit a better place.
@Orph: I understand your lament for all your lost work from the old Pit, and not only yours but everyone else's was taken into account when that transition was made. Having to re-establish your creditability should be unnecessary as this site is still a WIP. Larchy has gotten us over a great hump in the way of re-thinking this site's layout and interface. I can only applaud him and everyone else who has offered time to comment & work on it (Muhnay included). Do I miss the old Pit? -Of course; that's what we were all familiar with. Do I think the new Pit is an improvement? -I sure do. You know why? -Because everyone involved is wanting it to be so.
If say in about 10 years time, someone else comes along and persuades everyone to re-code, and re-design the site I've put so much time into supporting, and they go through with it. Would I be upset? -I sure would. Would I think the new site inferior? -Probably; but if I cared enough, I would want to help them make it better, while listening to all the reasons for why they even bothered changing it in the first place. Would they listen to me? -Only if I could show the evidence of my past efforts as proof-positive, then perhaps I'd have a NEW standing amongst them. Trying to re-establish my credibility won't prove anything to them. Subjective opinions are THE WORST form of evidence in science. I can't make them listen to me. I was gone for a while, and now regardless of all my past points and medals, I have to make-up for it. Snarkmarks ARE indeed still a sign of respect here at the Pit, but let's not abuse the 'power.' Noobs to the Pit or not, these folks still care as much about it as you do, regardless of the amount of effort put into it. I know you understand all this already, but it deserves mentioning as a playing-field leveler.
I care about your opinions Orph, I really do, but comments like this:
Quoting Orpheus
Please try to assure me that this is not an unhealthy trend. I truly do not want to test just whom has the most influence.
Just feels like a threat to anyone ready to take it that way. You know just as well as anyone else that influence is not established, it is earned. So asking for it or calling people out over it is just impolite regardless of how strongly you feel. And politeness goes a LONG way on the internet.
But I'm just 20, so what do I know?
I don't mean to call you out Orph, but I do recognize you as an influential force in your own defense, at least for anyone administering a site like this. If Orph has something to say, somebody's not going to like it
And it should go mentioning about some of the retaliatory remarks made. -Come on guys,
I know anger can be the most powerful emotion motivator of posts, but do we really need all this cluttering? my response is already long enough Now in an effort to get this thread back on track, (if others are still reading this
) I'll try and address some of your concerns Orph:SnarkMark difference: The reason for the snarkmark difference is due to a new consensus on calculation. The old method was agreeably convoluted and probably unfair, so a new equation was deliberated on and you can now find your calculation in the new control Panel Larchy implemented up top. The ratio remains about the same to other users new and old, and you can think of Snarkmarks now being worth MUCH more than they were before. You still have an ass-load of marks compared to everyone else so nothing to fear.
Quoting Orpheus
My hundreds of critiques, never made it into the Snarkmark system at all.
Whoa, really? well, if this is true, perhaps some investigation is required! We did have cases of missing maps and I think maybe some downloads, but if you're sure there are plenty more items missing, please inform us. This is a consequence of mass DB transferal FROM Globat. <Which as you remember, was a sucky host and may be recoverable, if you just point us in the right direction.I'm not sure about any other concerns you've had past the last two pages of this thread, but please, if you have any more, be sure to post them or direct them to me! -Which you don't need to be told anyway
That's a GOOD SnarkPit; there, there...
End of ridiculously LONG post.
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Re: ARCHIVE: Snarkpit v6 Feedback Thread
Posted by RedWood on Wed Jan 6th at 4:39am 2010
My understanding is that, this site is here to help mappers. The marks are a incentive to help them more. I wouldn't place to much importance on them. And i think it would be a good idea not to piss in the eye of Snark Pit's god.
Posted by RedWood on Wed Jan 6th at 4:39am 2010
My understanding is that, this site is here to help mappers. The marks are a incentive to help them more. I wouldn't place to much importance on them. And i think it would be a good idea not to piss in the eye of Snark Pit's god.
Reality has become a commodity.
Re: ARCHIVE: Snarkpit v6 Feedback Thread
Posted by larchy on Wed Jan 6th at 7:44am 2010
I did investigate it - three times, once for every time Orpheus complained. I trawled (and I do mean trawled, since when I asked Orpheus for any idea of where the content was referring to might be he said he had no idea - wouldn't even tell me what section of the old site they were in) the original dump of the globat database - the version before I touched anything - and there is nothing there to which he refers. I have explained this three times, but as always it's just a waste of breath.
Same with the snarkmarks system which you have just explained again for the umpteenth time Riven (he's upset over some stupid database number? That puerile? Really?)
During the past two years the flow of events has been:
1. Ask the community what they want
2. Implement what they ask for
3. Orpheus complains and insults us
It's a broken record.
No, you indiscriminately threatened to ban members from the site. Let me make it abundantly clear:
1. Having some huge number of magic banana points does not entitle you to act like an asshole toward other members.
2. It is not acceptable to threaten other site members in any way
3. I can and will make sure everyone knows exactly where they stand should you again attempt to threaten or otherwise intimidate any members of this site.
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Posted by larchy on Wed Jan 6th at 7:44am 2010
Quoting Riven
Quoting Orpheus
My hundreds of critiques, never made it into the Snarkmark system at all.
Whoa, really? well, if this is true, perhaps some investigation is required!I did investigate it - three times, once for every time Orpheus complained. I trawled (and I do mean trawled, since when I asked Orpheus for any idea of where the content was referring to might be he said he had no idea - wouldn't even tell me what section of the old site they were in) the original dump of the globat database - the version before I touched anything - and there is nothing there to which he refers. I have explained this three times, but as always it's just a waste of breath.
Same with the snarkmarks system which you have just explained again for the umpteenth time Riven (he's upset over some stupid database number? That puerile? Really?)
During the past two years the flow of events has been:
1. Ask the community what they want
2. Implement what they ask for
3. Orpheus complains and insults us
It's a broken record.
Quoting Orpheus
Besides, all I did was complain, STRONGLY about the god awful cats.
No, you indiscriminately threatened to ban members from the site. Let me make it abundantly clear:
1. Having some huge number of magic banana points does not entitle you to act like an asshole toward other members.
2. It is not acceptable to threaten other site members in any way
3. I can and will make sure everyone knows exactly where they stand should you again attempt to threaten or otherwise intimidate any members of this site.
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Re: ARCHIVE: Snarkpit v6 Feedback Thread
Posted by G4MER on Wed Jan 6th at 1:06pm 2010
Posted by G4MER on Wed Jan 6th at 1:06pm 2010
Hey Riven, What is the cover gonna look like for the book? 
...good post brother.
And you had to put the smiley stroking a kitty in there, ya know thats gonna piss Orph off right?
...good post brother.And you had to put the smiley stroking a kitty in there, ya know thats gonna piss Orph off right?
Re: ARCHIVE: Snarkpit v6 Feedback Thread
Posted by larchy on Thu Jan 7th at 12:08pm 2010
Ok, that's no problem, sorted that out in the new system.
They wouldn't need to request editing access to the article - under the new system they could just create a new version of the same article and make any changes. The old version would remain published until the new one was admin approved, at which point it would replace the old version as the published one.
Old versions are still stored in the database now, so nothing ever gets lost.
The published+30days time period would be considered the 'final' unchanged version of any particular version.
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It's taking me a fair while to code this new system... the new AJAX'ed add article page is done (including showing your images in the preview
) but I'm having to re-design the layout of the articles control panel page and put a lot of thought into how to present everything easily for users as the system itself is fairly complicated. So... hoping to get it done over the next few days, but it may be a bit longer.
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Posted by larchy on Thu Jan 7th at 12:08pm 2010
Quoting Riven
Instead, I suggest a standard 30 day 'feedback edit period' that allows an author to make as many changes as he sees fit to his article.
Ok, that's no problem, sorted that out in the new system.
Quoting Riven
If the 30 days are up and the author wishes to make further edits the day after, or years after even, then perhaps, an admin could potentially grant an extended other 30 days pass on the article for editing and re-approval. Now question is: Am I getting too complicated? (as I normally do). -And is this just not necessary or could a compromise be made?
They wouldn't need to request editing access to the article - under the new system they could just create a new version of the same article and make any changes. The old version would remain published until the new one was admin approved, at which point it would replace the old version as the published one.
Old versions are still stored in the database now, so nothing ever gets lost.
The published+30days time period would be considered the 'final' unchanged version of any particular version.
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It's taking me a fair while to code this new system... the new AJAX'ed add article page is done (including showing your images in the preview
) but I'm having to re-design the layout of the articles control panel page and put a lot of thought into how to present everything easily for users as the system itself is fairly complicated. So... hoping to get it done over the next few days, but it may be a bit longer.larchy
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Re: ARCHIVE: Snarkpit v6 Feedback Thread
Posted by thehalflifeman33 on Wed Jan 13th at 6:07pm 2010
Orpheous, the cat trend has nothing to do with twhl sucking arse.
Rite? :-D
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Posted by thehalflifeman33 on Wed Jan 13th at 6:07pm 2010
Quoting Orpheus
This unhealthy fixation on cats is disturbing me. The last assholes who fixated on cats ruined my account and practically sabotaged the entire site over at TWHL.
Orpheous, the cat trend has nothing to do with twhl sucking arse.
Rite? :-D
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Re: ARCHIVE: Snarkpit v6 Feedback Thread
Posted by Orpheus on Sat Jan 16th at 2:08am 2010
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Posted by Orpheus on Sat Jan 16th at 2:08am 2010
Riven and I discussed the situation in depth. Problem more/less resolved. The cat issue remains a concern of mine but seems that in this case not applicable. I retract my comment as unnecessary and apologize for the grief it caused. HOWEVER I will be posting sometime in the near future ALL the tings I feel need addressed as to the shortfalls in this new Snarkpit. (at least in so far as I am able to discern in the very limited time frames I have with regards to the internet accesses)
The old site had code issues that needed addressed, it did not need to be redesigned.... Much. That's my humble opinion and should be taken only in that way.
Keep 2 things in mind..
1) I helped design the other version, and something in that version originally brought everyone here.
2) Something I probably had a part in, kept you guys coming back.
I hope that remains true in the future.
The old site had code issues that needed addressed, it did not need to be redesigned.... Much. That's my humble opinion and should be taken only in that way.
Keep 2 things in mind..
1) I helped design the other version, and something in that version originally brought everyone here.
2) Something I probably had a part in, kept you guys coming back.
I hope that remains true in the future.
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Re: ARCHIVE: Snarkpit v6 Feedback Thread
Posted by Gwil on Sat Jan 16th at 12:44pm 2010
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Posted by Gwil on Sat Jan 16th at 12:44pm 2010
Visitor numbers declined way before the redesign.
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Re: ARCHIVE: Snarkpit v6 Feedback Thread
Posted by Gwil on Sat Jan 16th at 12:52pm 2010
No-one objects to you adding feedback - please, however, refrain from:
1) Reiterating your perceived importance to the popularity of the site. It's well established that the community was reduced long before any redesign took place, and indeed, while you were still here.
2) Promoting your opinion as more valuable than that of anybody else. It isn't. The veiled threats and wielding of imaginary influence ("talking to people in private" "promising to be back for more") serves only to antagonise just about everyone involved.
FAO: Others-
Don't turn any future thread into a flamewar. If everyone promises to behave properly, and does, the first person who fires the shots can be exposed for their incendiary attitude.
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Posted by Gwil on Sat Jan 16th at 12:52pm 2010
Quoting Orpheus
Riven and I discussed the situation in depth. Problem more/less resolved. The cat issue remains a concern of mine but seems that in this case not applicable. I retract my comment as unnecessary and apologize for the grief it caused. HOWEVER I will be posting sometime in the near future ALL the tings I feel need addressed as to the shortfalls in this new Snarkpit. (at least in so far as I am able to discern in the very limited time frames I have with regards to the internet accesses)
The old site had code issues that needed addressed, it did not need to be redesigned.... Much. That's my humble opinion and should be taken only in that way.
Keep 2 things in mind..
1) I helped design the other version, and something in that version originally brought everyone here.
2) Something I probably had a part in, kept you guys coming back.
I hope that remains true in the future.
The old site had code issues that needed addressed, it did not need to be redesigned.... Much. That's my humble opinion and should be taken only in that way.
Keep 2 things in mind..
1) I helped design the other version, and something in that version originally brought everyone here.
2) Something I probably had a part in, kept you guys coming back.
I hope that remains true in the future.
No-one objects to you adding feedback - please, however, refrain from:
1) Reiterating your perceived importance to the popularity of the site. It's well established that the community was reduced long before any redesign took place, and indeed, while you were still here.
2) Promoting your opinion as more valuable than that of anybody else. It isn't. The veiled threats and wielding of imaginary influence ("talking to people in private" "promising to be back for more") serves only to antagonise just about everyone involved.
FAO: Others-
Don't turn any future thread into a flamewar. If everyone promises to behave properly, and does, the first person who fires the shots can be exposed for their incendiary attitude.
Gwil
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Re: ARCHIVE: Snarkpit v6 Feedback Thread
Posted by larchy on Sat Jan 16th at 1:51pm 2010
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Posted by larchy on Sat Jan 16th at 1:51pm 2010
Site update - changelog is available by clicking the version number at the very bottom of each page.
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Re: ARCHIVE: Snarkpit v6 Feedback Thread
Posted by Orpheus on Sat Jan 16th at 3:38pm 2010
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Posted by Orpheus on Sat Jan 16th at 3:38pm 2010
Gwil, just accept my apology, and move onward. You're fanning flames now. Physician heal thyself.
I don't apologize often, but I do when its appropriate.
(Depreciating my past contributions is fanning.)
I don't apologize often, but I do when its appropriate.
(Depreciating my past contributions is fanning.)
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Re: ARCHIVE: Snarkpit v6 Feedback Thread
Posted by Cash Car Star on Tue Feb 23rd at 12:21am 2010
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Posted by Cash Car Star on Tue Feb 23rd at 12:21am 2010
Wow hey I haven't been here in years. I was googling myself the other day and found my mapping site on hlgaming.com had been shut down, heh, so I decided to check over here. All my maps are tied to weird non-relevant discussion threads! But at least I can see my screenshots again. Anyway, hope everyone's doing well. I probably won't see you folks again for another year.
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Re: ARCHIVE: Snarkpit v6 Feedback Thread
Posted by Crono on Tue Feb 23rd at 8:43pm 2010
Posted by Crono on Tue Feb 23rd at 8:43pm 2010
I think Gwil's post was quite warranted. Some very solid points there.
There seems to be something with the longevity of the cookies/sessions ... it would be nice if auto-login worked for longer than a week or whatever. There also seems to be nearly no auto-fill-in for login info. I'm not sure if this is because stuff is timing out or what. I'm sure you're already aware of it ... but this just seems like one of those things you'd want to fix before implementing new junk. I would, anyway.
There seems to be something with the longevity of the cookies/sessions ... it would be nice if auto-login worked for longer than a week or whatever. There also seems to be nearly no auto-fill-in for login info. I'm not sure if this is because stuff is timing out or what. I'm sure you're already aware of it ... but this just seems like one of those things you'd want to fix before implementing new junk. I would, anyway.
Blame it on Microsoft, God does.
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