Re: Xbox 2
Posted by Crono on Thu Mar 4th at 7:25pm 2004
~sigh~ . . . . we've covered this, I think.
The only thing I was trying to say is that, in having a Hard drive in an X-Box it SLOWS the game time down, maybe not while running so much, but it will definatly slow down load times, which is not cool for a console. Consoles are suppose to be quick and reliable. By actually using out of house computer parts to build a system is, well, nothing short of lazyness. (and yes the entire X-Box is built from out of house hardware, as is CERTAIN parts, such as video units in other consoles, but not the entire freakin' thing).
Anyway, it is all opinion on whether you like the X-Box or not, However, you shouldn't get on someones back because they think it's like a computer, because it is. It is the one console that IS a computer. The others at least don't RELY on hard disk support (Which again makes it slower). That's all I was trying to say.
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Re: Xbox 2
Posted by Crono on Thu Mar 4th at 8:47pm 2004
loth, where did you get those specs? Everything, even from MS, says they're building in house hardware this time around. (And inadvertantly trying to take over your entertainment center)
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Re: Xbox 2
Posted by Crono on Thu Mar 4th at 10:35pm 2004
I never said any of this was 'bad' per-say. I just said I didn't approve of it as a console, because it isn't one, really. It's even the same architecture as your computer, unless your computer is insanely old or incredibly new.
Secondly, I'm well aware of how caches work. But, the X-Box is relying too heavily on them. the second you choose a differnet option from what is cached, you're screwed, basically (not that it wont work, just that it will take longer). In all actuality the X86 arch is one of the worst architectures you could base gamming on, it is not fast, and it very inneficient. (this the lean towards pipelinging and 64-bit processing)
Other consoles, such as GameCube, have caching as well, through memory only, thus the speed of the console (mostly on 1st party games though).
The whole point of everything I was saying is, it is a computer. Hands down. Same architecture, same uses as a computer (you can run Linux on it and make an X-Box a mail server). So, if you already have a computer, why, oh why, would you get an X-Box? This was my point. Other consoles that are out are not total computers, not just yet.
I wasn't knocking X-Box, or harrasing people who thought differently then I.
Also, if you develop in house hardware, it become much cheaper to produce in the long run of about 3 years or so, which means you can easily reduce prices, right now Microsoft is losing about $100 per console sold, because of hardware agreements, not that that is much money to the company in general.
Don't take my remarks as an attack on the product, I'm just saying what it is, I don't know how people got me saying it was basically a computer confused with it's a piece of s**t. Or something like that.
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Re: Xbox 2
Posted by Crono on Thu Mar 4th at 11:15pm 2004
Actually, I want to play that lol. And Fathom, but I'd rather shell out 30 bucks for a DVD drive then buy an X-Box for $150+ or so.
But yeah, Ninja Gaiden has always been awesome.
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Re: Xbox 2
Posted by matt on Fri Mar 5th at 12:17pm 2004
Xbox is great fun. But as for the online gaming bit, this is a market that I predict will never take a hold... The
PC is built for playing online games on, not the consoles that try to support this method of play. And as for that 64bit chips in the Xbox2... Sounds cool.
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