Lot to be said about both sides really

"Right to bear arms"

"Guns can kill"

Again, like Orph, I kinda see both sides. But I'm gonna have to fall on the Anti Gun side I'm afraid. Simply because I think it helped this country (UK) to ban Hand Guns over .22 Calibre (I think that was the Law). How? well I would have to guess that it has reduced Hand Gun shootings, I don't have the figures to hand so can't prove that, it's just a guess.

Violent Computer Games, I remember somewhere saying people who got into violent computer games often had shorter tempers, and were more prone to being aggresive, however, the study also showed that, it wasn't that effect that was the problem , rather, it was the way theydealt with it, so people who worked out the tension/anger by physical means, Boxing, Punch bag (Violent sports in other words) got angrier, easier, but those who worked out the tension/anger with excersise that didn't involve, contact/violence i.e swimming were fine.

This tells me, it's not necessarily playing computer games, rather the way you deal with your anger that drives people(Any age) to do stupid things. (They don't necessarily need to be angry at that time either)

IMNSHO.

Gav

if you ban them ya, the honest will not have them, but with noone buying them there will be no gun stores meaning there will be no legal shipments or manufaturing of firearms in/into the states, meaning they have to smuggle them, which means them taking a bigger risk, and a better chance of border patrol catching them and stoping them, soforth cutting off supplies of firearms.

*nods head sagely*

you obviously haven't got a clue..

thats ok, most of the other gun control fanatics don't either..

my point, if you cannot stop the influx of something as massive as drugs, you will never stop the influx of a gun.. and its naive to think otherwise..

only honest people would abide by such a law, or make criminals out of them if they refused..

if a gun law were passed within the US, i would make it my duty to get one in spite... think on that.. i am betting the supposed other countries with laws banning guns, didn't remove the issue, it just made criminals out of the good people, who now hide them from the law..

unjust laws, never solve issues, only education will..

i would like to point to a time in US history as an example..

"PROHIBITION"

It did NOT work, it made criminals out of honest people..

i am not PRO or CON on alcohol either, but i accept the fact that its here to stay, and whining about it won't help..

you wanna make a dent in things, report drinking and driving, report individuals who blatantly say, i have a gun and i will shoot you.. this is the only effective way to control gun mis-use..

don't ban guns, ban the people who mis-use guns..

use education first, use the law as it is second.. people who threaten violence with guns, can be brought to justice, and the innocent gun, will remain..

when did i say i was for gun control...1)i dont live in the states so why should i care 2) i hunt so it would prevent me from doing so...WHICH i might add, is a lot easier in canada, seeing as we dont have to wear those dumbass hunters oranage vests

chock it up to the limitations of text communications bud..

i have been mis-quoted before, and done my share of doing it to others..

as long as everyone at least tries to remember the limits of text... we will all have long and fruitful relationships at snarkpit

Guns don't kill people, people kill people. If there were no guns at all, there's always an alternative. Gangs would be in streets beatin each other with sticks and rocks =D

And about these kids... They were just disturbed to begin with. If they said that they were convinced by GTA that nobody would get hurt, they have a lot more serious issues than homicidal intent. But, then again... this is the same reason why i can't see why they could be tried (can never remember if it's spelled that way, heh) as adults. If these kids had enough sense to know right from wrong - to be tried as commiting a crime that they know was wrong - then you might as well give them the right to vote... I mean, have they only proven that they are adults after they go on a shooting rampage? heh... anyway, back to the subject, I grew up with these games, and I have never even layed a hand on a gun. It disturbs me to even think about doing it. I think that it's the fault of both the kids and their parents. As much time as kids spend in front of a TV and computer, nothing influences them more than their parents and close friends... and some kids are just born homicidal idiots, too -_-

Our violent society creates violent entertainment. Not vise versa! I mean, in a violent society, are you going to go buy a game where the object is to pet little bunnies and collect butterflies? NO lol