To be honest ... I'm not sure why you want to virtualize it anyway ... Fallout 1 has patches and hacks to make it run naitively on Windows 7 x64.
Just start searching for "Fallout 1 Win 7 hacks". A lot of people suggest the HD pack fixes things, there's also registry fixes.
In any case ... if you want to set up a virtual environment ... get a copy of Windows 98 and set it up! No one is stopping you from doing that. But you should be aware, everything will be running off the CPU (it's virtual)
DosBox is a GOOD option. You shouldn't shrug it off just because you don't want to emulate an environment (by the way, saying you don't want an emulator, but you do want a virtual machine is nonsense, they're practically the same thing)
You have three options under your current OS: patch it so it runs naitively, use a dos emulator, or create a windows 9x virtual environment. You're going to have to choose which you want, and research how to do it. The only one that's a simple answer is DosBox, you're going to have to do the legwork yourself otherwise.
Re: Fallout 1
Posted by Crono on Sun Sep 18th at 6:54pm 2011
Posted by Crono on Sun Sep 18th at 6:54pm 2011
Blame it on Microsoft, God does.
Re: Fallout 1
Posted by omegaslayer on Sun Sep 18th at 7:14pm 2011
Its funny how you missed my post entirely that address your first complaint:
Also why don't you spend the 10$ (US) to buy the game on steam that works:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/38400/?snr=1_7_7_151_150_1
I mean seriously, you can save all the time by spending 10$, which isn't that much.
Also HAHA: found this in like... 2 seconds on google, 2 min to download the game, 1 min to find DOS box for MacOSX 10.6 and download it, 1 min to install it, and I was playing the game:
http://forum.i3d.net/full-games-demos/20520-free-game-fallout.html
I know you said you don't want to emulate it, but technically it's illegal (like more illegal than needlessly pirating a game) to virtualize Windows 95 without a licence.
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Posted by omegaslayer on Sun Sep 18th at 7:14pm 2011
Quoting tnkqwe
Guys, I asked a question and NO one is answering me with answers like:
or
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Sorry we can't help you because <put reason here>.
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Yes I know how it's done! You have to do this, this and this.
Its funny how you missed my post entirely that address your first complaint:
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Those old games were never designed to run on the resolution of screens we have these days. You'd be better off to try to find a version that someone ported to run on modern systems. Much like how someone added opengl support for the original Doom.
Also why don't you spend the 10$ (US) to buy the game on steam that works:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/38400/?snr=1_7_7_151_150_1
I mean seriously, you can save all the time by spending 10$, which isn't that much.
Also HAHA: found this in like... 2 seconds on google, 2 min to download the game, 1 min to find DOS box for MacOSX 10.6 and download it, 1 min to install it, and I was playing the game:
http://forum.i3d.net/full-games-demos/20520-free-game-fallout.html
I know you said you don't want to emulate it, but technically it's illegal (like more illegal than needlessly pirating a game) to virtualize Windows 95 without a licence.
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Re: Fallout 1
Posted by Niborius on Sun Sep 18th at 7:57pm 2011
I'm glad I am not alone that Dosbox is a good option. I also searched if Fallout 1 is compatible with Dosbox and it seems to be 100% compatible.
Posted by Niborius on Sun Sep 18th at 7:57pm 2011
Quoting Crono
To be honest ... I'm not sure why you want to virtualize it anyway ... Fallout 1 has patches and hacks to make it run naitively on Windows 7 x64.
Just start searching for "Fallout 1 Win 7 hacks". A lot of people suggest the HD pack fixes things, there's also registry fixes.
In any case ... if you want to set up a virtual environment ... get a copy of Windows 98 and set it up! No one is stopping you from doing that. But you should be aware, everything will be running off the CPU (it's virtual)
DosBox is a GOOD option. You shouldn't shrug it off just because you don't want to emulate an environment (by the way, saying you don't want an emulator, but you do want a virtual machine is nonsense, they're practically the same thing)
You have three options under your current OS: patch it so it runs naitively, use a dos emulator, or create a windows 9x virtual environment. You're going to have to choose which you want, and research how to do it. The only one that's a simple answer is DosBox, you're going to have to do the legwork yourself otherwise.
Just start searching for "Fallout 1 Win 7 hacks". A lot of people suggest the HD pack fixes things, there's also registry fixes.
In any case ... if you want to set up a virtual environment ... get a copy of Windows 98 and set it up! No one is stopping you from doing that. But you should be aware, everything will be running off the CPU (it's virtual)
DosBox is a GOOD option. You shouldn't shrug it off just because you don't want to emulate an environment (by the way, saying you don't want an emulator, but you do want a virtual machine is nonsense, they're practically the same thing)
You have three options under your current OS: patch it so it runs naitively, use a dos emulator, or create a windows 9x virtual environment. You're going to have to choose which you want, and research how to do it. The only one that's a simple answer is DosBox, you're going to have to do the legwork yourself otherwise.
I'm glad I am not alone that Dosbox is a good option. I also searched if Fallout 1 is compatible with Dosbox and it seems to be 100% compatible.
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Re: Fallout 1
Posted by tnkqwe on Sun Sep 18th at 8:44pm 2011
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Posted by tnkqwe on Sun Sep 18th at 8:44pm 2011
Legal and illegal are terms with tones of meaning. In this case, some people find it legal to share a commercial product with others. In the Internet a single person buys software and shares it with others by making copies (but it gets illegal in every way when a free copy is used for commercial usage). The one who shares earns NOTHING from sharing. But others find this sharing illegal (they are mostly greedy (many of the developers) or foolish enough to believe in the greedy people). Thous other people call it "Internet piracy".
I have already installed the game with successes on a virtual machine. It is running with no problems. But the machine has LOW RESOLUTION and NO SOUND, because there are NO drivers. And I want to play Fallout 1 in a bigger window and with sound.
All questions about "problems with Fallout 1" I have seen around the Internet are about the colors. They HAVE installed the game. I can't even run the setup on Win7 x64 (tells me that the OS doesn't support such x16 program) nor on WinXP x32 (it goes in a condition known as "The blue screen of death").
Using DosBox? Well... After some exploration I found that the setup programs for Fallout 1 and Fallout 2 are inside folders called "Fallout 1" and "Fallout 2". DosBox can get confused with the "space" symbols. And I don't know what might happen if I try making a copy of the first folder. The two games are inside one ISO file.
That's why I'm trying with a virtual machine. And so far I have one good advice:
4) Windows no longer updates win 95/98 but I heard once that the newest updates are still archived. They were current when they stopped updating.
This will take some searching.
omegaslayer, I think I missed your opinion because it did not answer my question. Telling me that an old game is not created for a big screen is not an answer. It's just a fact that can't help me in any way.
So my question is:
Where to search for VGA and sound card drivers for a virtual machine that runs with Windows 98 SE?
Does any one has an ideas?
I have already installed the game with successes on a virtual machine. It is running with no problems. But the machine has LOW RESOLUTION and NO SOUND, because there are NO drivers. And I want to play Fallout 1 in a bigger window and with sound.
All questions about "problems with Fallout 1" I have seen around the Internet are about the colors. They HAVE installed the game. I can't even run the setup on Win7 x64 (tells me that the OS doesn't support such x16 program) nor on WinXP x32 (it goes in a condition known as "The blue screen of death").
Using DosBox? Well... After some exploration I found that the setup programs for Fallout 1 and Fallout 2 are inside folders called "Fallout 1" and "Fallout 2". DosBox can get confused with the "space" symbols. And I don't know what might happen if I try making a copy of the first folder. The two games are inside one ISO file.
That's why I'm trying with a virtual machine. And so far I have one good advice:
Quoting "Orpheus"
4) Windows no longer updates win 95/98 but I heard once that the newest updates are still archived. They were current when they stopped updating.
This will take some searching.
omegaslayer, I think I missed your opinion because it did not answer my question. Telling me that an old game is not created for a big screen is not an answer. It's just a fact that can't help me in any way.
So my question is:
Where to search for VGA and sound card drivers for a virtual machine that runs with Windows 98 SE?
Does any one has an ideas?
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Re: Fallout 1
Posted by omegaslayer on Mon Sep 19th at 3:59am 2011
I think its pretty foolish to try to pirate something when you can get it so damn cheap on steam, then complain that its not working 100%.
Also math: You've spent.... 3 days.... probably 2-3 hours total (Conservatively, install times, research, downloading...) trying to get this to work. Now I don't know what the minimum wage is in your country is, but here in America its about 4.10$ (bare minimum), 3hours * 4.10$ = 12.30 - 2$ in taxes (lol feds take everything), and your at 10$ which you could spend on steam on a game that works...
1) I have no idea what you mean by space symbols... Do you mean the folder is named "falout 1" (as in theres a space?). But you try a command "cd fallout 1" but it fails? Well yeah of course it does, you put a space to the command without quoting. You can try "cd "fallout 1"" (don't type the outside quotes)
2) You don't know what will happen if you copy the first folder? So you want to solve the problem, but you're not willing to experiment to try to fix it?
3) You can copy files out of iso files. WinRAR does this pretty easily.
You said:
Which was answering this delema. We can't help you because the version for the game you got wasn't designed to work on the newer operating systems. But if you get an updated version then it shouldn't be a problem. OR if you try DOS Box
Try this. But in all seriousness, virtual machines provide minimal hardware diversity to cause problems such as needing to search for drivers. You can go to the device manager and check if the soundcard and video card are installed, if they are, HEY you have the driver!!
In the off chance that you don't, well you might be shit out of luck, its difficult to find Windows 2000 drivers these days.
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Posted by omegaslayer on Mon Sep 19th at 3:59am 2011
Quote
Legal and illegal are terms with tones of meaning. In this case, some people find it legal to share a commercial product with others. In the Internet a single person buys software and shares it with others by making copies (but it gets illegal in every way when a free copy is used for commercial usage). The one who shares earns NOTHING from sharing. But others find this sharing illegal (they are mostly greedy (many of the developers) or foolish enough to believe in the greedy people). Thous other people call it "Internet piracy".
I think its pretty foolish to try to pirate something when you can get it so damn cheap on steam, then complain that its not working 100%.
Also math: You've spent.... 3 days.... probably 2-3 hours total (Conservatively, install times, research, downloading...) trying to get this to work. Now I don't know what the minimum wage is in your country is, but here in America its about 4.10$ (bare minimum), 3hours * 4.10$ = 12.30 - 2$ in taxes (lol feds take everything), and your at 10$ which you could spend on steam on a game that works...
Quoting tnkqwe
Using DosBox? Well... After some exploration I found that the setup programs for Fallout 1 and Fallout 2 are inside folders called "Fallout 1" and "Fallout 2". DosBox can get confused with the "space" symbols. And I don't know what might happen if I try making a copy of the first folder. The two games are inside one ISO file.
1) I have no idea what you mean by space symbols... Do you mean the folder is named "falout 1" (as in theres a space?). But you try a command "cd fallout 1" but it fails? Well yeah of course it does, you put a space to the command without quoting. You can try "cd "fallout 1"" (don't type the outside quotes)
2) You don't know what will happen if you copy the first folder? So you want to solve the problem, but you're not willing to experiment to try to fix it?
3) You can copy files out of iso files. WinRAR does this pretty easily.
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omegaslayer, I think I missed your opinion because it did not answer my question. Telling me that an old game is not created for a big screen is not an answer. It's just a fact that can't help me in any way.
You said:
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Sorry we can't help you because <put reason here>.
Which was answering this delema. We can't help you because the version for the game you got wasn't designed to work on the newer operating systems. But if you get an updated version then it shouldn't be a problem. OR if you try DOS Box
Quote
So my question is:
Where to search for VGA and sound card drivers for a virtual machine that runs with Windows 98 SE?
Where to search for VGA and sound card drivers for a virtual machine that runs with Windows 98 SE?
Try this. But in all seriousness, virtual machines provide minimal hardware diversity to cause problems such as needing to search for drivers. You can go to the device manager and check if the soundcard and video card are installed, if they are, HEY you have the driver!!
In the off chance that you don't, well you might be shit out of luck, its difficult to find Windows 2000 drivers these days.
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Re: Fallout 1
Posted by sgtfly on Mon Sep 19th at 12:03pm 2011
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Posted by sgtfly on Mon Sep 19th at 12:03pm 2011
Don't know if this will help or if you've tried it already:
This is for windows XP.
Copy the entire Fallout CD to the hard drive, then activate Win 95 compatibility on every exe file before installing, and again using Win 95 mode on every exe in the installed game folder.
This is for windows XP.
Copy the entire Fallout CD to the hard drive, then activate Win 95 compatibility on every exe file before installing, and again using Win 95 mode on every exe in the installed game folder.
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Re: Fallout 1
Posted by Crono on Tue Sep 20th at 7:05pm 2011
Posted by Crono on Tue Sep 20th at 7:05pm 2011
OmegaSlayer, it's even worse than that a full digital DRM free Windows version of Fallout 1 is available from GoG.com for $5.99.
Blame it on Microsoft, God does.
Re: Fallout 1
Posted by tnkqwe on Sun Sep 25th at 1:12pm 2011
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Posted by tnkqwe on Sun Sep 25th at 1:12pm 2011
I have just tried using DosBox! The Setup program can't run with DosBox. The emulator's error message is "This program cannot be run in DOS mode". Which means that DosBox can't help in this case.
Wow! I can BUY a FREE game? Since when? The last place I have seen something like this was on an atlas: "Free copy. Costs <some money>".
I have tried using Google. But I couldn't find anything. I have checked the devices. There are no drivers. Or maybe I'm not searching right.
Other suggestions?
P.S. I found a VirtualBox topic about it. Looks promising.
EDIT:
Now I have sound!
Quoting Crono
OmegaSlayer, it's even worse than that a full digital DRM free Windows version of Fallout 1 is available from GoG.com for $5.99.
Wow! I can BUY a FREE game? Since when? The last place I have seen something like this was on an atlas: "Free copy. Costs <some money>".
I have tried using Google. But I couldn't find anything. I have checked the devices. There are no drivers. Or maybe I'm not searching right.
Other suggestions?
P.S. I found a VirtualBox topic about it. Looks promising.
EDIT:
Now I have sound!
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Re: Fallout 1
Posted by Niborius on Sun Sep 25th at 2:24pm 2011
FYI That is not the only way dosbox can run programs. There is also an imgmount command as I mentioned earlier!
Edit:
Also makes me go back to my previous post:
Posted by Niborius on Sun Sep 25th at 2:24pm 2011
Quoting tnkqwe
I have just tried using DosBox! The Setup program can't run with DosBox. The emulator's error message is "This program cannot be run in DOS mode". Which means that DosBox can't help in this case.
FYI That is not the only way dosbox can run programs. There is also an imgmount command as I mentioned earlier!
Edit:
Also makes me go back to my previous post:
Quoting "Niborius"
I also searched if Fallout 1 is compatible with Dosbox and it seems to be 100% compatible.
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Re: Fallout 1
Posted by Crono on Mon Sep 26th at 5:11am 2011
Wow! I can BUY a FREE game? Since when? The last place I have seen something like this was on an atlas: "Free copy. Costs <some money>".
...
Other suggestions?
A few, but I think they'd upset you.
Posted by Crono on Mon Sep 26th at 5:11am 2011
Quoting tnkqwe
Quoting Crono
OmegaSlayer, it's even worse than that a full digital DRM free Windows version of Fallout 1 is available from GoG.com for $5.99.
Wow! I can BUY a FREE game? Since when? The last place I have seen something like this was on an atlas: "Free copy. Costs <some money>".
...
Other suggestions?
A few, but I think they'd upset you.
Blame it on Microsoft, God does.
Re: Fallout 1
Posted by tnkqwe on Thu Sep 29th at 1:04pm 2011
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Posted by tnkqwe on Thu Sep 29th at 1:04pm 2011
OK... I have sound now. All that remains are VGA drivers. Universal VGA drivers. Can someone suggest universal drivers? And I'll need some instructions too.
I have tried installing other drivers without success. It needs "Windows 9x VBEMP Driver Disk". I don't have one. And I can't find this disk anywhere.
Can you suggest one?
I have tried installing other drivers without success. It needs "Windows 9x VBEMP Driver Disk". I don't have one. And I can't find this disk anywhere.
Can you suggest one?
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Re: Fallout 1
Posted by omegaslayer on Fri Sep 30th at 1:56am 2011
I have no idea why you think its "free." Its not.
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Posted by omegaslayer on Fri Sep 30th at 1:56am 2011
Quoting tnkqwe
Wow! I can BUY a FREE game? Since when? The last place I have seen something like this was on an atlas: "Free copy. Costs <some money>".
I have no idea why you think its "free." Its not.
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