Quake 3 is a massivly fast and an extremely efficient engine. fact.

As an avid programer, and as a human-oid, steam has huge problems that need to be resolved. Its lag being the main thing and the huge hdd space it cunsumes - currently 5 gigs for me.

Hmm, half life got so so far because of valve, apart from consuming every decent mod under the sun ( excluding ns ), it listened to its community, and acted. Jeeze, I just so hope that value wont go down the route that microsoft went --- oh f**k no. Quake would be linux.

Looks like q3 then :-p , I always did like carmack... 

you know, for the moment, i am going to ignore the poke at the US again, and mention, the last charts i looked at quoted the USA as still the worlds largest percentage of 56k users still... you might check your numbers bud.. the USA has massive areas that have no broadband at all.. i think you are still confused about population densities again.. sure 7 million new yorkers have broadband, but the rest of the state is prolly still on 56k due to its ruralness..

try not to include the USA in your gripes about steam.. i am betting countries didn't even come into the equation, when it was in the planning stages..

I have just read that Steam will not let you use custon models because it reads out of the pack file and the pak file alone.

Although i am not to sure on how accurate this is.

Erm, I'm assuming they'll still have the failsafe catch-all scenario - where it compares client files to the server files? So surely any changes to an online mod will be noticed? Otherwise cheating would ran rampant with clear sprites and so forth..!