If only they would take a moment to log in, post something and drop kick us back into activity.
Oh well.
Re: 55 guest users
Posted by Orpheus on Mon Dec 19th at 9:49pm 2011
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Posted by Orpheus on Mon Dec 19th at 9:49pm 2011
We just had 55 guest people not logged in, looking over the site.
If only they would take a moment to log in, post something and drop kick us back into activity.
Oh well.
If only they would take a moment to log in, post something and drop kick us back into activity.
Oh well.
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Re: 55 guest users
Posted by Crono on Mon Dec 19th at 9:57pm 2011
Posted by Crono on Mon Dec 19th at 9:57pm 2011
The actual activity numbers are much less encouraging.
To be frank, a shit load of people traffic through the site. But the state of the forums is not something they like, apparently, and they are not participating.
To be frank, a shit load of people traffic through the site. But the state of the forums is not something they like, apparently, and they are not participating.
Blame it on Microsoft, God does.
Re: 55 guest users
Posted by Orpheus on Mon Dec 19th at 10:10pm 2011
You think?
Oddly enough, I always thought that to change something to your liking, you actually have to be there participating.
My bad I guess.
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Posted by Orpheus on Mon Dec 19th at 10:10pm 2011
Quoting Crono
But the state of the forums is not something they like, apparently, and they are not participating.
You think?
Oddly enough, I always thought that to change something to your liking, you actually have to be there participating.
My bad I guess.
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Re: 55 guest users
Posted by Crono on Mon Dec 19th at 10:33pm 2011
Posted by Crono on Mon Dec 19th at 10:33pm 2011
Generally speaking, if people don't find something they like ... they're not going to bother.
It makes no sense to go around the web and look for communities and go, "Oh this one aspects is neat, but the forums are not so great ... I KNOW I'll join the forums and participate and invest hours of my time to help them out."
It just doesn't happen.
What's happening with the site right now is people are interested in the articles ... but not the people. To infer that's the problem of the people abstaining from posting in the forums ... is a little ridiculous.
It makes no sense to go around the web and look for communities and go, "Oh this one aspects is neat, but the forums are not so great ... I KNOW I'll join the forums and participate and invest hours of my time to help them out."
It just doesn't happen.
What's happening with the site right now is people are interested in the articles ... but not the people. To infer that's the problem of the people abstaining from posting in the forums ... is a little ridiculous.
Blame it on Microsoft, God does.
Re: 55 guest users
Posted by Orpheus on Mon Dec 19th at 10:57pm 2011
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Posted by Orpheus on Mon Dec 19th at 10:57pm 2011
..... Sometimes your deductive reasoning just makes no sense what so ever Adam.
BUT, its your reasoning. Up till now, its never mattered before. Why change things now.
Who knows, you might just have a point.
BUT, its your reasoning. Up till now, its never mattered before. Why change things now.
Who knows, you might just have a point.
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Re: 55 guest users
Posted by Riven on Tue Dec 20th at 1:22am 2011
Well, he does. I let him have a look at the database tables and site activity graphs from the the past couple of years, and he's speaking from stats.
It's true though; the site's longevity stems from the permanent content database we've built here. Of course, it didn't just happen, but that's where the value is for the many people visiting the site through stray Google searches or site hopping. A well written article is worth like 1000 threads in activity coinage.
The activity helps in the forums, but that only keeps those who are already 'sold' on our theme and content around for longer. The forum activity doesn't attract people here, the content and articles do.
Way back in 2001, not many sites like this existed, so the standards for activity were rather low. The people who were on, were those looking to relate with others and talk about what they were doing. The internet now has become more autonomous; and people know they shouldn't have to talk to anyone to get the facts and information they need. If it's not easily available, then it's not worth their time.
Those looking for a conversation or a review will inevitably stick around, activity makes that part of it last longer. But the autonomous Google searchers will care less about that in the long run. Produce articles and write reviews, I think that's the best medicine for us until the site gets updated to support new and better features.
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Posted by Riven on Tue Dec 20th at 1:22am 2011
Quoting Orpheus
..... Sometimes your deductive reasoning just makes no sense what so ever Adam.
BUT, its your reasoning. Up till now, its never mattered before. Why change things now.
Who knows, you might just have a point.
BUT, its your reasoning. Up till now, its never mattered before. Why change things now.
Who knows, you might just have a point.
Well, he does. I let him have a look at the database tables and site activity graphs from the the past couple of years, and he's speaking from stats.
It's true though; the site's longevity stems from the permanent content database we've built here. Of course, it didn't just happen, but that's where the value is for the many people visiting the site through stray Google searches or site hopping. A well written article is worth like 1000 threads in activity coinage.
The activity helps in the forums, but that only keeps those who are already 'sold' on our theme and content around for longer. The forum activity doesn't attract people here, the content and articles do.
Way back in 2001, not many sites like this existed, so the standards for activity were rather low. The people who were on, were those looking to relate with others and talk about what they were doing. The internet now has become more autonomous; and people know they shouldn't have to talk to anyone to get the facts and information they need. If it's not easily available, then it's not worth their time.
Those looking for a conversation or a review will inevitably stick around, activity makes that part of it last longer. But the autonomous Google searchers will care less about that in the long run. Produce articles and write reviews, I think that's the best medicine for us until the site gets updated to support new and better features.
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Re: 55 guest users
Posted by Orpheus on Tue Dec 20th at 1:53am 2011
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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Dec 20th at 1:53am 2011
[admin edit]:
original message accidentally overwritten....
Sorry Orph, I messed up your post :/ Feel free to edit over this message to bring it back!
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original message accidentally overwritten....
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Re: 55 guest users
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Posted by Wild Card on Tue Dec 20th at 2:14am 2011
I have an idea 
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Re: 55 guest users
Posted by Orpheus on Tue Dec 20th at 2:17am 2011
MLK Jr. had one of those and got shot for it. Tread lightly old man.
Hey, hows your plane flying doing?
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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Dec 20th at 2:17am 2011
Quoting Wild Card
I have an idea
MLK Jr. had one of those and got shot for it. Tread lightly old man.
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Re: 55 guest users
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Posted by Riven on Tue Dec 20th at 2:21am 2011
Ya, MORE content is better; of course.
And there is absolutely nothing wrong with encouraging more posts. We need more forum activity; that's for sure.
I think regarding the site stats, that in order for the forums and posts to matter as much as they used to for the random visitor, then further article development and review effort should be made.
Any [POSITIVE/CONSTRUCTIVE] activity is good activity
And Orph, I accidentally typed this in place of your last post (clicked the moderate button by accident). I placed an admin message there, if you want to rewrite it, I'm soo sorry.
And there is absolutely nothing wrong with encouraging more posts. We need more forum activity; that's for sure.
I think regarding the site stats, that in order for the forums and posts to matter as much as they used to for the random visitor, then further article development and review effort should be made.
Any [POSITIVE/CONSTRUCTIVE] activity is good activity
And Orph, I accidentally typed this in place of your last post (clicked the moderate button by accident). I placed an admin message there, if you want to rewrite it, I'm soo sorry.
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Re: 55 guest users
Posted by Orpheus on Tue Dec 20th at 2:31am 2011
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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Dec 20th at 2:31am 2011
No biggie. I think I made my point. I may not have convinced anyone but to me, it was perfectly clear.
I know I've said it before but I wish a thousand times I could have convinced Lep to diversify. I foretold this. He was convinced I was wrong. (as most of the kids here do)
Most people just don't understand how hard I fought for this place.
/whining
I know I've said it before but I wish a thousand times I could have convinced Lep to diversify. I foretold this. He was convinced I was wrong. (as most of the kids here do)
Most people just don't understand how hard I fought for this place.
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Re: 55 guest users
Posted by Wild Card on Tue Dec 20th at 3:35am 2011
MLK Jr. had one of those and got shot for it. Tread lightly old man.
Hey, hows your plane flying doing?
Plane is doing great, though I've not flown it in about 5 weeks now
I gotta get back on that.
So, assuming no one is currently capable of shooting me (I hope!) I'll chance it by saying if my project idea is something the community is interested in, then maybe thats the kind of project that can kick start something.
Its not something that'll be made into a typical map, nor perhaps any game map. But its something I've been wanting to do for a very long time - I probably even once started it but cant remember. I've long been an avid fan of Titanic (the ship moreso than the movie) and I've always wondered what it would be like to walk it's decks. And Im sure Im not alone on that one.
So far as I can tell, there arent any publicly available computerized 3D tours of the ship and thats something I'd like to build, as best as possible to original scale, and according to original design. Not some writer's creativity, so to speak. Various blueprints can be found and Im working off of those. Frankly, just started last night, but its going to get there. Putting up the first pieces is always the hardest part to ensure all the measurements are correct. Going on the assumption from what I was able to dig up that 16 units is equal to 1 foot (12 inches)
So thats my project.
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Posted by Wild Card on Tue Dec 20th at 3:35am 2011
Quoting Orpheus
Quoting Wild Card
I have an idea
MLK Jr. had one of those and got shot for it. Tread lightly old man.
Hey, hows your plane flying doing?
Plane is doing great, though I've not flown it in about 5 weeks now
I gotta get back on that.So, assuming no one is currently capable of shooting me (I hope!) I'll chance it by saying if my project idea is something the community is interested in, then maybe thats the kind of project that can kick start something.
Its not something that'll be made into a typical map, nor perhaps any game map. But its something I've been wanting to do for a very long time - I probably even once started it but cant remember. I've long been an avid fan of Titanic (the ship moreso than the movie) and I've always wondered what it would be like to walk it's decks. And Im sure Im not alone on that one.
So far as I can tell, there arent any publicly available computerized 3D tours of the ship and thats something I'd like to build, as best as possible to original scale, and according to original design. Not some writer's creativity, so to speak. Various blueprints can be found and Im working off of those. Frankly, just started last night, but its going to get there. Putting up the first pieces is always the hardest part to ensure all the measurements are correct. Going on the assumption from what I was able to dig up that 16 units is equal to 1 foot (12 inches)
So thats my project.
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Re: 55 guest users
Posted by Crono on Tue Dec 20th at 7:54am 2011
Posted by Crono on Tue Dec 20th at 7:54am 2011
To note, there's a dude remaking Titanic in CryEngine 3 http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/11/24/incredible-inside-the-titanic-in-cryengine3/ You might want to check it out.
Blame it on Microsoft, God does.
Re: 55 guest users
Posted by Niborius on Tue Dec 20th at 8:26am 2011
My eyes!!
Those graphics!!!
Haha I was like 100% sure the picture was real until I started the video. (Even then it took me a while to be sure)
Posted by Niborius on Tue Dec 20th at 8:26am 2011
Quoting Crono
To note, there's a dude remaking Titanic in CryEngine 3 http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/11/24/incredible-inside-the-titanic-in-cryengine3/ You might want to check it out.
My eyes!!
Those graphics!!!Haha I was like 100% sure the picture was real until I started the video. (Even then it took me a while to be sure)
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Re: 55 guest users
Posted by Orpheus on Tue Dec 20th at 10:30am 2011
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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Dec 20th at 10:30am 2011
When a body sees pictures like that it makes our paltry stuff so pathetic.
Yes I enjoyed making my maps but sometimes I feel so... dirty? That's as good a word as any I suppose.
Yes I enjoyed making my maps but sometimes I feel so... dirty? That's as good a word as any I suppose.
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Re: 55 guest users
Posted by Wild Card on Tue Dec 20th at 9:59pm 2011
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Posted by Wild Card on Tue Dec 20th at 9:59pm 2011
Well that does look awefully nice. Makes me a tad bit jealous. Kinda hoping he gets it done, you can see at times that the whole inside of the ship is empty because in some shots you see the water where ship should be.
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Re: 55 guest users
Posted by Orpheus on Tue Dec 20th at 10:18pm 2011
If you can see water from the inside of the boat, perhaps he's shooting for authenticity?
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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Dec 20th at 10:18pm 2011
Quoting Wild Card
Kinda hoping he gets it done, you can see at times that the whole inside of the ship is empty because in some shots you see the water where ship should be.
If you can see water from the inside of the boat, perhaps he's shooting for authenticity?
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Re: 55 guest users
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Posted by Wild Card on Tue Dec 20th at 11:58pm 2011
hehehe :P
No matter, I've given up on projects before because of things like this. But this time, no matter. Im aiming to get this done.
No matter, I've given up on projects before because of things like this. But this time, no matter. Im aiming to get this done.
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Re: 55 guest users
Posted by G4MER on Wed Dec 21st at 8:49pm 2011
Posted by G4MER on Wed Dec 21st at 8:49pm 2011
That Cyro-engine looks nice... I did not know they had tools for map making.
Re: 55 guest users
Posted by Orpheus on Wed Dec 21st at 9:39pm 2011
Been released a while now if I recall.
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Posted by Orpheus on Wed Dec 21st at 9:39pm 2011
Quoting G4MER
That Cyro-engine looks nice... I did not know they had tools for map making.
Been released a while now if I recall.
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