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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Apr 17th at 1:20am 2012

Quoting Niborius
That doesn't sound so friendly smiley Unless your signature is part of your post smiley


There was nothing wrong with what he said. Its the general mindset of the current Snarkpit that isn't friendly.

Has it really reached the point around here where people HAVE to take offense to every tiny slight? I noticed the other day that you HAD to point out that you weren't taking sides in a debate. That is extremely saddening to me. IMO, you're comments were so benign, that a clarification of your position was totally unnecessary.

Yes, I am an old, dumpy looking guy. Since I had no trouble with his comment, YOU should have no trouble with his comment.



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Posted by Niborius on Tue Apr 17th at 6:21am 2012

Quoting "Orpheus"
There was nothing wrong with what he said. Its the general mindset of the current Snarkpit that isn't friendly.


This is what happens to me every time this week, when someone misunderstands me in a chat message (or forum, in this case).

I only meant it as a joke , I am not offended, I am not troubled by his post, and I'm sure no one is.

Sometimes I may write things a little different than I should because English is not my native language.

And yes I just pointed that out because it was true. I was one of the few who had a laugh at your post, and now I seem to be the one that is blamed.

Really, I couldn't care less what people think about me here, but if they're going to hate or "dislike" me for something that I didn't mean, I think that's unnecessary.


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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Apr 17th at 11:17am 2012

No blame is given or received. Those viewpoints are in the eye of the beholder.
All I am doing is pointing out that of late, it has gotten very unfriendly around here. People are NOW having to consider if certain people will be upset about this or that. This habit is bull crap and needs to stop!

There is absolutely no reason for this to be necessary. If a post is upsetting, THE POST will speak for itself. Nobody here needs to point to it. Very, VERY few posts in the history of Snarkpit has been earth shatteringly distressful.

There was no need, nor requirement that you post your position in that topic. Your being a non native speaker of english doesn't preclude this. It does however clarify why you may misunderstand us at times but it is not a driving force behind clarifying that you were not taking sides in a discussion.

As for you making a joke... Seems that I am NOT the only one with a strange sense of humor. NOBODY gets my jokes, ever.



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Posted by Niborius on Tue Apr 17th at 11:33am 2012

I do understand what you're trying to say though. I've seen it happen a lot around here as well. One person says something completely normal, and the other gets all "angry" about how he doesn't believe what the other one just posted, while there was nothing wrong with it. And that's when the discussion starts and the thread becomes off-topic.

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As for you making a joke... Seems that I am NOT the only one with a strange sense of humor. NOBODY gets my jokes, ever.


Sometimes it's not just the jokes that I don't get smiley


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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Apr 17th at 12:04pm 2012

One of my very best friends online lives in the Netherregions too. He finally understood my posts. You will too. Some day.



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Posted by Niborius on Tue Apr 17th at 12:52pm 2012

Some day.

Nah I understand you most of the time, but sometimes I can really notice the difference between our culture, especially because of the difference in age (Don't take that the wrong way smiley)

Then again it would be easier if it were in my own language, but I just see it as a way to improve my English.


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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Apr 17th at 4:12pm 2012

Age is a definite issue here for more reasons than you might imagine. And don't worry about me taking stuff wrong. No one is ever in doubt when I do. thankfully it is way less often than everyone seems to think. I pick on my age way more than anyone here... Except the REALLY annoying members who know who they are and shall remain nameless. (Until they open their mouths and remove ALL doubt) smiley



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Posted by Niborius on Tue Apr 17th at 8:15pm 2012

Quoting Orpheus
Age is a definite issue here for more reasons than you might imagine. And don't worry about me taking stuff wrong. No one is ever in doubt when I do. thankfully it is way less often than everyone seems to think. I pick on my age way more than anyone here... Except the REALLY annoying members who know who they are and shall remain nameless. (Until they open their mouths and remove ALL doubt) smiley


Haha yes I know you well enough to know that you wouldn't mind, but I still thought I should mention it smiley


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Posted by Crono on Tue Apr 17th at 9:33pm 2012

Why not instead of enforcing and defining issues that plague the boards you help eliminate them by discontinuing their stigma?

I really haven't seen any other members talking about age as a barrier in this community before. Makes you wonder where it's actually coming from, if it's not a clearly noticeable trend in the community.

Language barriers are much more common here, of course. But I don't think anyone's ever gotten put off by something you've said, Niborius. Usually if people know English isn't someone's first language, they become very lenient on how things come across, benefit of the doubt sort of deal. (Although, to be honest, you're from one of the countries that puts out more proficient English as second language speakers.)


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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Apr 17th at 10:12pm 2012

Quoting Crono
Why not instead of enforcing and defining issues that plague the boards you help eliminate them by discontinuing their stigma?



Dood.. When I am talking about age, I mean AGE. You prolly dunno what its like to constantly worry that some parent some place may notice that a child of theirs is talking to a very old man.

THAT stigma is not something I have any control over but it is a VERY real concern.

It was one of the first things Riven and I discussed when we met. I was still sorta worried that he was a kid pretending to be of legal age. You never know these things in advance.

If you want to help REMOVE any stigmas here at Snarkpit, how about you broaden your horizons beyond what YOU feel is important and think about someone elses viewpoint for a change. You automatically assumed I was picking on the old people/young pup thing when all along it was something MUCH more important.

You are back to the pot calling the kettle black again, and I for one don't like it one bit.

[edit] Feel free to ask Riven if we didn't discuss the age issue. He concurred that it would be a very nerve wracking thing to constantly worry about it.
I was so glad he wasn't a kid..



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Posted by sgtfly on Tue Apr 17th at 11:26pm 2012

I know exactly what you mean ther Orph. My job requires me to be around high school and grade school aged kids all day. Nowdays you have to be SOO careful in what you do or say, it's nerve wracking at times.
As an adult you're under the microscope around anyone under 18 anymore. The wrong touch, gesture, word or comment can cause all sorts of trouble.
Being 57 years old with 6 grandkids and a wonderful wife the last thing I need are some goofs thinking I did something wrong with their children. I'd GIVE my life to protect any child.
It's unfortunate though that people really can't trust others around their kids, and not at all comfortable when you have to be in that postion.


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Posted by Orpheus on Wed Apr 18th at 12:27am 2012

Although I admit that it is a bit harder for someone to be inappropriate in a forum than it is in a face to face situation but now days it is so easy for someone to say "He touched my not-not spot" and it is an accusation that can follow you around for the rest of your life.

I agree that it has never happened here at Snarkpit, for which I am sooo thankful, however, it has never been absent from my mind. I hear of people all the time who got turned in for this or that and had the cops beating on their doors because they supposedly did something. Yes, I know that it really happens. Some perv is being bad to kids but it has really gotten out of hand.

Anywho's, because I want to meet with members here while I travel, it only adds to the thinking and because I want to meet, it seems that it is a price I have to contend with. Its a shame. You would think that after over a decade and the pictures that have been posted here of my visits that I could relax but.... I cannot.

Anywho.. THAT was the age thing when I said "More reasons than you might imagine"



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Posted by G4MER on Wed Apr 18th at 1:01am 2012

smiley ORPH TOUCHED MY NO NO SPOT! HA HA HA!



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Posted by Crono on Wed Apr 18th at 4:14am 2012

I can only read the words on the page, Orpheus. Your comment didn't exactly scream "I'm afraid of being arrested for misconstrued pedophilia". It sounded more like ageism happening on the boards.

And I wasn't accusing you of anything, just to be clear. I was pointing out that community atmosphere is what people make. Based on the comment I had no real way of knowing you meant unwarranted personal accusations as opposed to ageism on the boards. Your comments tend be very ambiguous, and you don't qualify any of them, it's almost impossible to know what exactly you're commenting on as a result.


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Posted by Orpheus on Wed Apr 18th at 8:34am 2012

1st off, this whole thread is about two people meeting so THAT could be a clue?
2nd its damned if you do and damned if you don't. If someone post ALL the possible directions a thought might encompass, the post would be pages long. If you post a short post, someone invariably assumes the wrong thing MUCH LIKE YOU HAVE. smiley

All anyone can do is post THEIR thoughts and hope for the best.

It seems that the only people who read ageism in comments are those who SEE ageism, excluding of course blatant and undeniable slurs about age. Which, there hasn't been any to my knowledge in a very long time around here.

I have posted at least a 100 times over the years that my biggest concern about meeting members is age. Yeah, its a pretty much given that I am telling the truth about my age but you never know. I could still be lying. The same holds true about others.

I have been talking to Riven on the phone for a very long time. Even if he was 14 or less when he came to Snarkpit, he would almost have to be of legal age by now but still I had a nagging worry. We met in a Walmart parking lot, due to my truck size I needed the space. I was still thinking "Is this public enough?" or "Will someone think its strange enough to call for the cops?"

These are not unfounded worries.

I talk to MazeMaster (Nick Alger) on the phone all the time. He also HAS to be old enough now too but, and don't laugh, he has a voice of a 12 year old. You just cannot tell age by talking to someone. Riven, might have been a minor.

But still, both of the assuredly have to be legal because its simply been to long since they came here.




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Posted by Orpheus on Wed Apr 18th at 8:46am 2012

Quoting sgtfly
That's very cool. I had some long haul friends that I used to play lineage 2 with. Whenever they were in the area we used to have lan parties. It was a ton of fun.
So whenever you get to the Chicago area and have some time look me up. I'll pm all my info.


BTW, before I forget. Last week I delivered to Mundelein and picked up in Niles. I was even broke down in Niles for 1/2 a day. I had no way to contact you to visit. I had plenty of time though. smiley



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Posted by sgtfly on Wed Apr 18th at 7:51pm 2012

That's ok, maybe next time. We can sit and down a couple beers and a barbeque then. If you do get up this way bring the family too, I got talked into putting a pool in the back yard for the grandkids.
It better get a lot of use.


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Your riches in life are family and friends, everything else is just a distraction.



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Posted by Crono on Wed Apr 18th at 9:25pm 2012

Quoting Orpheus
its damned if you do and damned if you don't. If someone post ALL the possible directions a thought might encompass, the post would be pages long. If you post a short post, someone invariably assumes the wrong thing MUCH LIKE YOU HAVE. smiley


Not really. I misunderstood your comment (which I said), but your initial response was barely clarification it was mostly accusation. And somehow I'm an asshole because I read what was on the page and linked it to something you talk about the most often. You haven't talked about concerns of legal ages in a very long time, even if that's your main concern, it hasn't been regularly expressed here for years.

It seems like you're getting offended at something that wasn't meant to be offensive, at all. If you're mad I didn't know exactly what you were talking about immediately, then I'm sorry, but this reaction is entirely unwarranted.


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Posted by Orpheus on Wed Apr 18th at 9:50pm 2012

To use your tired expression (which has really gotten old) "Just to be clear"

I am not offended, just clarifying that even YOU can make a mistake. Also, just to be clear, my expressing my fears about this topic, is no more recent, nor old than the ageism topic, yet you chose the worser of the two to express concern over.

I find that informative. Disturbing but informative. I am NOT calling you a liar because ageism is a topic that has rared its ugly head from time to time. It just enforces my belief that it is getting very unfriendly around here. Perhaps it is time each of us examine our thoughts and ask "Why?"

Had you not brought up the ageism, would this topic have died soundlessly? It at least didn't flare into full flames and that is... Unexpected.



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Posted by Orpheus on Wed Apr 18th at 10:04pm 2012

Quoting sgtfly
If you do get up this way bring the family too, I got talked into putting a pool in the back yard for the grandkids.
It better get a lot of use.


My son's are grown. Brenda and I live by ourselves and we have a plethora of animals to tend. We have to make special arrangements to feed them for just one day away. Consequently, we do not travel far now. My hopes are that all our animals die, before Brenda and I do so we can travel again like we did when the boys lived at home. Sadly, my wife does not share this wish since all the animals are hers. Contrary to what you may think, its not her desire to be away from me, more that she has this soft spot for every hurt animal in the world. Drives me nuts, but I just cannot say no. She knows I like animals too. smiley



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