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Posted by wil5on on Wed Mar 17th at 12:25am 2004

Sorry about the double post, but I want this thread to stay alive, my puter needs fixing! Does anyone have any ideas short of formatting/reinstalling windows? [addsig]



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Posted by fraggard on Wed Mar 17th at 2:27am 2004

Try uninstalling your graphics card manually. (Control Panel > System > Hardware > Device Manager) Then reboot. It should redetect your card, then run the installation to finish with the default drivers (if they exist). Check if it works. Then update to the latest, I suppose you could download them of your manufacturers website.





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Posted by Crono on Wed Mar 17th at 6:29am 2004

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? posted by Gwil


thats the hilarity of it all. you shouldnt even have to consider formatting/reformatting, but due to the sprawling ugly design of the Windows filesystems you do

there you go Linux basher Lep
Oh, can you play it on Lunix yet? I wasn't aware that you could play anything more advanced than ASCII Quake


Oh now come on. lol.

WineX and Gentoo Linux together makes a very nice gaming computer.

Secondly, Windows defragmentation algorythim is horrible. Try to find a 3rd party if you want to defrag, which isn't really nessesary unless you've uninstalled and re-installed a crap load of stuff recently, or it's been over 6 or so months since you cleaned it all up, mostly if your computer is running slow.......it's not a general matinence tip to mess with fragmentations unless you need to. I know so many people who defragment their computers on a regular basis and I ask them why, and they say to improve performance (of their overly abundant expensive computers) and it's not doing anything (in performance increase that is) unless you're low on space. Also, how would a defrag fix a problem you're having? it just moves the clustors to an organized area (which can make accessing files faster) and have more contiguous space...

Fraggard has a fairly good option there. But usually if you just remove a device (or just uninstall it) the drivers are still there. expecially if they're ones you installed. I'm not sure about ATIs stuff, but with nVidia updates you can remove them from the add/remove programs area, then uninstall your card from device manager and then reinstall everything....however, it would be a good idea to put in a different video card and boot once, that way video drivers will be written over with new ones and such (unless Windows is more inefficient then I think it is.....yikes). [addsig]



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Posted by Yak_Fighter on Wed Mar 17th at 6:58am 2004

Just buy a new computer. Seriously, it worked for me.



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Posted by wil5on on Thu Mar 18th at 9:35am 2004

? posted by fraggard

Try uninstalling your graphics card manually. (Control Panel > System > Hardware > Device Manager) Then reboot. It should redetect your card, then run the installation to finish with the default drivers (if they exist). Check if it works. Then update to the latest, I suppose you could download them of your manufacturers website.

Interesting idea Frag, I'll consider it. I'm running a Radeon 9600 Pro with the latest Omega drivers, btw. But I dont think the vid card is the problem (could be tho).

I removed Radiant (deleted the folder, no uninstall prog) and that didnt help anything.

Yak, I would, but I dont have the money. If I had the money for a whole new system, I wouldve got one by now.

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Posted by fishy on Thu Mar 18th at 10:04am 2004

? posted by wil5on

I just recently started mapping for MoHAA, and something strange happened. No signs of any problems before this, btw.

did you install a new editor for MoH?





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Posted by KoRnFlakes on Thu Mar 18th at 10:06am 2004

removing the radiant folder is useless tbh. you need to remove the registry for a proper uninstall. Uninstall the program 1st & then:

start - run - regedit
HKEY_LOCAL_USER - Software - CoDRadiant

delete that & restart pc.

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Posted by fraggard on Thu Mar 18th at 10:20am 2004

He says he has problems with more than the single game KoRn... Methinks it has something to do with the graphics card than with anything else.

BTW: did you try what I said wil5on? I think it's your easiest option yet. And like crono said, uninstall any of those updates and stuff after the card. Try to make it as clean as possible.





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Posted by wil5on on Thu Mar 18th at 11:35am 2004

I'll try Frags idea tonight. If it doesnt work, I'll try your idea Korn.

BTW its MoH radiant, not CoD.

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Posted by wil5on on Fri Mar 19th at 10:10am 2004

Uninstalled the vid card drivers, then installed the ATI ones (catalyst 4.3). That didnt help at all.

Went into regedit, but there was no HKEY_LOCAL_USER. I'm running win xp btw.

EDIT: Looked around, found HKEY_CURRENT_USERSoftwareMOHAAMOHRadiant. Should I delete this? I want to be sure before screwing around in the registry.

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Posted by KoRnFlakes on Fri Mar 19th at 12:17pm 2004

dunno, never touched moh. [addsig]



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Posted by wil5on on Sat Mar 20th at 3:24am 2004

I'll try it then...

[addsig]



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Posted by wil5on on Sat Mar 20th at 8:13am 2004

Removed the registry entry, didnt fix my problem.

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Posted by wil5on on Sun Mar 21st at 4:31am 2004

Sorry for the *triple* post, but it looks like i'll have to wipe my hdd and start over. Unfortunately I've got 2 tests coming and I need to study, so I wont have enough time until next weekend. I also wont have enough blank CDs until then... [addsig]



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Posted by wil5on on Wed Apr 14th at 3:31am 2004

GGGGGGGAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dammit! I formatted my hdd, first thing I did was install gfx card drivers, then copy over all my HL stuff. HAMMER STILL DOESNT WORK!!! I even tried removing the drivers, that didnt affect it at all.

Still the same problem, when I try to drag a box, of any sort, in a 2d view, it crashes the frickin program.

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Posted by Crono on Wed Apr 14th at 3:51am 2004

Just another way of God telling you not to format your HD to fix problems

Most likely, not that I have the slightest clue as to what your problem is but, the problem is in your registry or something as such.

[EDIT]
Kay, I just read through the posts on this ... old ... topic. Have you ever thought of trying a virus scan?

Also, try updating openGL/DirectX drivers and versions.

The only problem is, no one can really tell you how to fix it because no one is there at your computer.

But formatting is a terrible idea ... dear lord ... just learn how to clean it manually, it doesn't degrade the quality as quickly as several complete wipes (taking that residual data stays on Hard Disks you don't really get a 'clean slate' you just get a fresh coat of paint, but the crap is still there underneath).
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Posted by Tracer Bullet on Wed Apr 14th at 4:09am 2004

The crap may still be there but isn't that irrelavent? just because a particular magnetic bit happens to be in a particular state should have no effect on your system. If there is no way to refence a file, it effectivly does not exist even if those bits remain encoded. am I missing somthing here?



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Posted by Crono on Wed Apr 14th at 4:19am 2004

No, you're not missing anything.

But, I didn't say something like "its completly horrifyingly detramental". I just said that residual information is left and after time it does degrade the HD, how often something like this is done and the amount of time matters, but if you frequently format your drive, there's a good chance you'll notice a difference with in a few years (3 or 4).

Its not really a big deal to be honest, because the performance hit isn't that big, but it does exist.

Anyway, it doesn't matter. But you can't rightfully say that for this situation formatting your hard drive is a 'intelligent' choice. [addsig]



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Posted by Gorbachev on Wed Apr 14th at 4:37am 2004

Try not moving old HL files back on, try doing a complete fresh install of hammer from downloading it off the 'net. You notice the performance on older computers considerably. When I reformat I can load HL maps in a mere 5-10 seconds with WON. After a few months it tends to take longer and longer. I always welcome a format. (Because I'm a backup fiend, so I'm never worried.)

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Posted by Tracer Bullet on Wed Apr 14th at 5:25am 2004

Gorb-

I think just defragging should fix the load times.. no need for the reformat.

Crono- I guess I didn't understand what you were saying. I thought you were implying that the residual data itself could cause a problem i.e. a virus that wasn't actualy deleted ect... I don't understand how a reformat would even marginaly effect the drive capacity, but I'll take your word for it. I don't know very much about HDD technology.






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