Why would anybody care about what other people do,especially if it has no bearing whatsoever on your life?

Will gay relationships jack up your insurance?, or threaten your existence in any way at all? Or your childrens?

How?

I mean, to take a meaningless stance publicly and actually protest something as inneffectual to them as homosexuality. I swear, sometimes I think people just like to feel there jaws moving.

Its here, its real, and its never going away. How can it be an abhorration of nature when it occurs so frequently within nature? It's not a disease for cryin out loud. Get over it people. We are set acast in a world with some very real and dangerous problems. We should all focus more on simply being decent humans, as opposed to White, or black, or straight, or gay humans.

As for gays being selfish for wanting to have access to the constitution of marriage, how does that work? Because a person is gay they should not be entitled to the same blanket of federal assistance as any one else?. Why.? I feel that monogamy and devotion are higher functions of a conscious mind. These behaviours benefit a person regardless of the compositional elements. Don't quote the bible either. Its a 2000 year old reference on how to live and needs updating sorely. (remember, son of a minister speaking here, hehe).

I am suprised and dismayed when I hear people say things like "They should all be destroyed". Hitler felt that way about the jews did'nt he? How is it any different?. This, I feel is nothing more than mindless intolerance. Or perhaps fear. You want to make the world a better place, than start at home base. Step back a sec and take a long hard look at the battles you choose to fight. You may miss an opportunity to actually make the world a better place while you are staring at your neighbor with hatred and contempt.

Thats all for me. Hope I did'nt bore anyone.

should there be legal recognition of same sex couples in areas of entitlement and liability?

yes

should two people get together in front of a god that calls them an abomination, and hope for his blessing because its ok now?

i think not.

is it ok for two bank robbers(one male one female) to get married?

yes

is it accepable to rob banks?

bank robbers think so.

in the time it took me to write a few different attempts at a post, the thread has grown by a full page. i dont know what anyones talking about now.

cheers Orf,

btw, i'm sure it was these forums that someone posted a link to an article about people getting married to trees in india. some sort of custom to do with land rights, but marriage all the same.

that would be, yours truly

funny, i found that ceremony far less offensive, could have been the fact that it predates our version of marriage, i dunno, but i found the article fascinating none the less.

dude, you are on another page, the page where people think just like you do.. quoting me aint gonna help much. my point is a valid one, albeit not totally accepted in all circles. but valid none the less.

My take is simply this: It is not the governments place to regulate American life. The only lawful way in which an individual's freedom of action may be curtailed is if that action infringes on another individual?s liberty. Murdering someone clearly infringes upon their rights and should therefore be illegal. Gary marriage affects no one but the consenting parties involved, and should therefore clearly be legal.

The tax issue is an entirely different bag. I don?t think it is right for married people to receive tax benefits the rest of us do not, however I?m sure this is simply a relic of a time when women were incapable of earning a living in society. In that circumstance it would make sense to give the tax break.>>

still, i seem to NOT be the best person to ask, but it is my belief, that the driving force behind all this is the tax issue, has been for a while now... many people are attempting to gloss it over with "rights" issues, but the fact remains its the almighty dollar.

where i work, i drive blah,blah miles each year, its all without any deductions, so my gross and net are the same.

i am forced to acquire other means of deductions, in this case, my car, which goes everywhere i do.. it alone is more than enuff to compensate.

other people work with me, and complain endlessly about their taxes, and i ask them why.. i have no problems at all.

i point out i have a tow vehicle, and they should too, they complain they do not want the hassles of a tow car, i whisper "who says you have to tow it"?

the point is, there are ways, legal ones, why attempt to circumvent the system, or worse cry foul and spout rights bulls**t...

two gays, find two opposite sex gays, marry each other, but live with the one they care for.. end of issue, end of story, taxes are fixed ala married style.

i would think gays had more brains, but maybe their orientation is not the only thing defective

because?

you should not be different, but be treated the same?

hell i dunno, and honestly its gone past caring..

i do however suggest you read this whole topic, it contains some rather pointed opinions, and not all of them are as narrow as mine seem to be.

you are only cheating yourself if you dont read them, and you dishonor your fellow members as well... i may disagree with many people here, but would never even consider not reading their thoughts.