? posted by Jinx

I'm tired of beating my head against a brick wall. And shouldn't we be focusing on more important issues, like getting Detail Textures working smoothly, building a library of good targas people can use, and updating our maps to make them look even more 1337?!

This is true. I never got detailtextures to work in the end.

Hello sailor! Got a phone number? :x :x

Arf.

If close mindedness is immature, then gladly I will be immature. See, in a debate, there are several cheap tricks to make the other side abruptly look like idiots; one is to say 'stop being so close minded', as well as 'whoa, are you getting angry?' and 'stop trying to end the debate on your terms.' Instantly, anything said afterwards will be a result of their 'close mindedness'; myself, I prefer to be quite choosey on what I allow into my head.

You cannot expect just everybody to float around in their lives, receptive to all ideas and morals. Some people are quite closed on some areas, and one of these people is Orph; I think it's best to accept that though one side may be correct here, you can't altogether force him to rapidly shift to an entirely different opinion. That would make the debate even more meaningless, and even the most 'enlightened' opinion without value.

dave, although i am a strong advocate of the sciences, many are not, especially gays, as it would be in this direction IF any cure is to be found and such.. no one wants to view themselves as a birth defect [edited for dave, as he is unable to read clearly] this comment leave it open to the fact it may NOT be a defect dave. keep an open mind my friend.

anyways, my point is, many people, no matter their gender preference, do not believe that we evolved from apes, IE a lower life form, as such, many will discount gay sheep as anything resembling gay humans, after-all sheep are sheep and humans are... not sheep.

i doubt any active gay will say, this is relevant.

i for one, am hopeful.. and appreciative none the less.. it is at least an effort to disprove my archaic thinking.

dave i agreed with you, why are you acting as if i didn't?

re-read what i wrote, and re-read what you wrote, and you said exactly the same thing.

i am thinking, that you are reading more into it cause you are under the impression that i am close minded to the situation, which is definitely not the case.

i have strong opinions, but i leave room for others, i just value them far less than my own, which BTW is how most people are, so i am not wrong, just most likely misguided.

i can view gays any way i wish, and hope above all else that a solution is found, be it a CURE for them, or a CURE for us who discriminate on them.

don't allow your over-sensitivity to reflect on me.. its unbecoming.

its ok dave, if we agreed on everything, it would be boring..

i would like to stress, i am hopeful of any solution, and yes i do believe that the gay situation warrants one, even if many do not.

i am not generalizing gays, i am doing so for the issue.. hmm stupid text is failing me again. there is a solution out there, and it might just lie in this direction, whether you count being born gay as a defect is just semantics, the end is the same, if they are born, they are here, how you view it afterward is irrelevant, but IF they are born, then a solution lies within the womb, and can be solved.

? posted by Alien_Sniper

Love ya jon.

ditto my friend..

but genetics doesn't have to involve the brain.

could be as simple as detecting the gene that says "this individual will be attracted to men, and assuring the baby is born female, and vice-versa i suppose.

i don't think messing with someones brain is a solution, as abhorrent as i find gays, i wouldn't want them lobotomized in some flubbed up intra-uterine surgery.

i would rather keep things as is, then risk that.