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I doubt even liquid helium would be cold enough to stop conduction in most semi conductors, and it's certainly not cold enough for bose-einstein condensates. think mili kelvins there.
Semi conductors depend on a small energy gap between the valence and conduction bands typicalybetween 2 and 0.5 eV. Think of these as two seperate energy levels which electrons can occupy. Applying a small voltage to the material overcomes this gap and promotes electrons to the conduction band allowing electricity to flow. If the thermal energy was high enough to to promote the electrons without an applied voltage, then the material would be a conductor, not a semi conductor. You can calculate the thermal energy by the furmula E=kT where k is boltzmans constant and T is the temperature in kelvins. Hence you can find for yourself that at room temperature tha magnitude of thermal energy is only 0.026 eV, Hence thermal energy is NOT required for semiconduction.
Resistivity decreases with decreasing temperature due to the decreasing entropy of the system. Basicly this means, that if the atoms in the crystal are vibrateing less electrons are less likely to collide with them.
Conduction drops to zero at zero kelvin, yes. This is because all of the electrons are locked into the valence band. however I expect that by applying a voltage you are putting energy into the system and will heat it up just enough for cunduction. I'm not really sure what the actual behavior would be at 0 K, but that is a moot point as it is theoreticaly impossible to obtain absolute zero.
/Edit/ Okay, I just read fraggard's link. I think that is all pretty reliable information, but it doesn't adress my question of how the applied potential comes into play. I stand by what I said.
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however I expect that by applying a voltage you are putting energy into the system and will heat it up just enough for cunduction. I'm not really sure what the actual behavior would be at 0 K, but that is a moot point as it is theoreticaly impossible to obtain absolute zero. |
When you apply that voltage, any temperature increase might actually be cancelled out by that liquid He/N running through, wouldn't it? I doubt it'd ever be allowed to reach a high enough temperature for electrons to make the jump across the band-gap in the forbidden energy zone.
Anyway, my knowledge is somewhat sketchy on this, So I asked around a bit and it turns out that I might be right after all... Apparently, they try to maintain temperatures between -10 and +20 C. But I can't call this info very reliable. /me will find out more by tomorrow.



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| I'm a chemistry major with a minor in physics WC. I've spent four years learning about all this stuff, although my solid-state physics knowledge is somewhat spotty. |
Im in grade 12...
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Im in grade 12... |
We had Solid State theory in grades 11 and 12 actually. So some of my knowledge is from there. Otherwise largely from my first year at the university.

The last science class I took was SBC3C meanning grade 11 bio college. Cant take science classes.
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I've been kind of pissed about the lack of a propper solid state calss at my school. the closest I've gotten is Inorganic Chemistry, and band theory was only really a very small section in that class. of course since it's just a natural extension of MO theory I have a pretty solid base for understanding the bits and pieces I do see. I am however quite disgusted that the physics department does not offer a calss in solid-state physics, particularly in this day and age!!
Anyway WC. I get my bachelors in just a few months, so don't worry if I know a bit more about some things
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I should certainly hope I would!
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I should certainly hope I would! |
The day I know more than you guys is well, the day cows fly.
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Don't think of it that way WC. I cannot begin to coprehend how much I have learned in my time at the University. It's like you go wandering through school for the first 20 years of your life before you reach true understanding of anything. even the first two years at University are very turbid. Everery thing seems disconnected and not very usefull, but at some point you reach a "moment". You suddenly see how everything fits into a larger picture, and be able to understand things you never imagined being able to wrap you mind around.
This happend for me in the middle of my Junior year here. it's an increidble feeling.
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Pacific University. Out in Forest Grove.
It sounds like you are suffering through a "workshop" physics class. A class where there is no lecture and you are suposed to muddle through the lab doing stupid experiments that teach you absolutly nothing.
Pacific uses the same format for gerneral physics. it is a horrible educational format, it makes it simply impossible to cover a reasonable ammount of material. the classes are just a painfull waste of time! Fortunatly the upper division physics classes are much better, and the Chemistry department is absolutly fantastic!
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I really know nothing of CS.
When I transfered from PCC I was undecided as to whether I wanted to major in Chemistry or CS. Well, they assigned my a chemistry professor as my advisor, so... I'm a chem major and have never had a single CS class. I think it was a good "decision" though. honestly I'm quite unimpressed by most of the other departments at this school.
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