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Posted by Forceflow on Thu Mar 25th at 9:34pm 2004

girls on IRC aren't so common ...



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Posted by scary_jeff on Thu Mar 25th at 10:13pm 2004

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Well actually you are discriminating against women. [...] I know many women who make their livings on the computer.


That's fine, but it doesn't stop people from being correct in saying that in general, girls aren't as interested in computers as guys are. The typical response is 'oh well I know a girl who works as a webdesigner', or whatever, but this does not in any way go against the 'in general' statement...

Why are people so against the fact that guys and girls can, in general, have different interests? It is not discrimination if I say 'there are more black people in affrica than in sweden', it's just a fact that happens to conincide with something like gender or race. I never said 'not being interested in computers means you are an idiot and are infirior' - this would be nonsense. Not being interested in computers as much as guys doesn't have to be a bad thing or an insult, it is just a fact.

I like to go out on my mountainbike and do trick riding - in 5 years I haven't seen one girl doing this. If I say 'girls aren't as interested in doing street riding as guys', this is not a discrimination of any kind. It is a general rule coming from the fact that there aren't really any girl street riders.

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I don't think in anyway it's pushing a group of people that don't want to do something into doing something (say studying engineering). It's letting more people from a certain group with the drive to do something get a chance at it.


You must have misunderstood me. If there was a guy and a girl who both had the same grades that were slightly under what you need to get onto my course, all things being equal, they would let the girl on the course and not the guy. It isn't about letting people who have the drive to do something - they can already do that, get the grades, and you are in. What they are doing is making concessions to try and encourage a group of people who would otherwise not be so interested in engineering to do an engineering degree. A girl already had the exact same opertunity to do my course as a guy, but now it is easier for a girl to get onto this course, simply because they have arbitrarily decided they want more girls in engineering. Perhaps because some fool said 'Hey... no girls on your course... thats discrimination!!'. You don't get any kind of initiative trying to get more guys to study english, but if a guy wants to, and he gets the grades, he can. What is wrong with that?



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Posted by Gorbachev on Fri Mar 26th at 12:04am 2004

Many women also don't reveal themselves, they just go by a male alias online and no-one's the wiser. [addsig]



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Posted by Yak_Fighter on Fri Mar 26th at 12:05am 2004

? posted by Gorbachev
Many women also don't reveal themselves, they just go by a male alias online and no-one's the wiser.

How you doin' Gorby...





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Posted by Orpheus on Fri Mar 26th at 12:08am 2004

? posted by Yak_Fighter
? posted by Gorbachev
Many women also don't reveal themselves, they just go by a male alias online and no-one's the wiser.

How you doin' Gorby...

*hears faint pissing noises*

STOP IT YAK, PLEASE...

/me goes and changes once more

[addsig]



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Posted by Tracer Bullet on Fri Mar 26th at 12:19am 2004

Bravo Jeff. Afimitive action in all forms pisses me off. it is inequality in the guise of promoting equality. I think this has to be one of the most blantant instances of cultural hipocracy in the history of the world.





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Posted by Orpheus on Fri Mar 26th at 12:26am 2004

? posted by Tracer Bullet

Bravo Jeff. Affirmative action in all forms pisses me off. it is inequality in the guise of promoting equality. I think this has to be one of the most blatant instances of cultural hypocrisy in the history of the world.

i despise any form of affirmative action as well, but i can imagine many other instances of hypocrisy that far outweigh it.. maybe its age, or sensitivity to other wrongs..

sometime, when i have recovered from my last bout with the snarkpit, i might be coaxed into my other unpopular opinions about life :/

[addsig]



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Posted by Wild Card on Fri Mar 26th at 12:32am 2004

You mean your stacks of delivered adult diapers? [addsig]



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Posted by Orpheus on Fri Mar 26th at 12:34am 2004

? posted by Wild Card
You mean your stacks of delivered adult diapers?

thanx WC, i needed that

topics like this, disturb me on many levels.. not the girls and PC topic, but TB's and Jeff's derailment topic about injustices..

[addsig]



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Posted by Wild Card on Fri Mar 26th at 12:35am 2004

? posted by Orpheus

thanx WC, i needed that

Sorry for disobeing your orders mother. But I did have a nap. I just missed you guys too much.

[addsig]




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