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Posted by Gollum on Sat Mar 27th at 1:24pm 2004


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Dave simultaneously screamed and vomited.

....which should be physically impossible for a human. Although Dave had enough sense to scarper from the slimy-cybernetic-amorphous-tentacular blob of jism that had just perforated his girlfriend, he later died from a nasty lung infection.





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Posted by Juim on Sat Mar 27th at 2:08pm 2004


LOL



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Posted by Gollum on Sat Mar 27th at 8:52pm 2004


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Back when my grammar and spelling didn't suck, I used to enjoy writing.

How can your spelling and grammar get worse over time? I didn't think they were really the sort of skills you lose...

Besides, your spelling and grammar seem pretty good to me. Granted, there are mistakes in your writing, but they're fairly minor





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Posted by |=Tarosek=| on Sat Mar 27th at 11:25pm 2004


All really good suggestions guys. For those of you trying to spice up my story, though, let me let you in on a tip. First of all, I'm not aiming for a horror story, I'm aiming for a sci-fi thriller/suspense, so nothing too gruesome. Also, what I wrote was a prologue. I don't want too much revealed right now, for I want the reader to get hooked with the prologue, not turned away because he/she doesn't like horror novels. Other than that, I like the rest of the suggestions. Oh and one more thing. For those of you giving me suggestions on how to write, I already have the story planned out, and am just connecting the major events with some humorous and thrilling transitions. Keep the suggestions coming, though. Who knows, I might just use one.



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Posted by Gollum on Sun Mar 28th at 11:25am 2004


Keep us posted. I'm always interested in the progress of new authors - let us know what you learn about writing! Tips for success, and perhaps more importantly tips to avoid failure.



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Posted by ReNo on Mon Mar 29th at 8:24pm 2004


Actually, I seem to have lost some of my grammar and spelling skills lately - in high school I used to have word battles with a mate of mine (we would basically just have conversations using stupid overly complex words) for a laugh, but lately I seem to be having trouble putting together sentences that don't have one flaw or another in them. I guess when you stop using English in the way you did in the past (for instance, an English class) your grammatical dexterity can fade a little. I very rarely find myself needing to write formally anymore and as such it comes as a little more of a challenge than it used to. [addsig]



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Posted by Myrk- on Tue Mar 30th at 1:05am 2004


Figer I love your version! It's kick ass, brings me closer to the screen to read (though the screaming and vomiting thing is impossible I'm sure). The name Nicoto seems to go well in the story too... not sure bout Dave lol [addsig]



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Posted by wil5on on Tue Mar 30th at 9:22am 2004


I suppose it's sort of ironic, Reno, that my grammar/spelling skills actually improved since I stopped having to take English at school. Maybe it was my idiotic teacher... or the fact it was boring as hell. [addsig]



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Posted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Tue Mar 30th at 12:21pm 2004


I think coming here improves ones english. [addsig]



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Posted by Tracer Bullet on Thu Apr 1st at 1:50am 2004


Hmm, I'm sorry I sort of missed this thread. To be honest I don't like the prologue you have written. I like Juim's version the best, as it gives a sense of suspense without relying on horror.

In terms of how you write I don't think you should be taking anyones advice on that. If it works for you to be highly organized with a detailed outline; great, but if not, don't let people tell you that you need it. The biggest obsticale to writing a full length book is not talent, it is the sheer size of the undertaking. You need to find an organizational style that works for you and go with it. Outlining characters is a good idea, but if you cannot work that way it is useless to you.

I find myself incapable of creating a detailed outline, but also in need of a stark skelatal framework with which to guide myself. this includes the gerneral direction things are going but does not include any of the more personal twists.

Somthing I find myself somewhat weak on is characterization, and this truely is the life of a story. There are books that can get along without it, but for the most part, it does not matter what the story is if your characters are flat and uninteresting. A good exercise I have found for improoveing these skills is to write little bits about random people you see in your life. if you see someone with an interesting face, make up a paragraph about that individual. It's both educational and entertaining so you have nothing to lose

Good luck

[addsig]



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Posted by |=Tarosek=| on Thu Apr 1st at 2:17pm 2004


You said a mouthfull, Tracer. I just want to comment on one thing. The prologue of my story isn't really supposed to be doing anything other than setting up the plot. Also, everyone else's "versions" all have one thing I do not want: too much gore. This book is not supposed to be a horror story, its supposed to be a sci-fi thriller/suspense. Also, believe it or not writers do not just make up random names off the top of their head; they try to find a name with meaning. I chose the name Casey because I needed a person who would be brave enough to actually follow the trail of blood into the cave. Jaimie was just a random name, but that's only because I did not need her character's name to have a meaning, since her purpose was to die.



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Posted by |=Tarosek=| on Thu Apr 1st at 2:21pm 2004


Juim, I just want to say that your version of my prologue completely unravels the plot, causing the entire story to fall apart. Like I've said, I already have the story all planned out, I'm just connecting the major sections. Also, your story does not exactly pull me into the story, in fact it kind of bores me. But that's just the way I am, the kind of stories I like. Other people may like your version, but I do not, since I've already established a firm foundation for the mystery within my story.



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Posted by Tracer Bullet on Thu Apr 1st at 3:13pm 2004


No one is suggesting that you adopt those "versions" or anything like that. it is unsuprising that they do not work within the context of your planned story since we have no idea what you are thinking. I do however view those two stabs at it both containing some good elements of writing. it is the way things are said more than what is said that makes them stand out in my mind. [addsig]



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Posted by KungFuSquirrel on Thu Apr 1st at 3:21pm 2004


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I chose the name Casey because I needed a person who would be brave enough to actually follow the trail of blood into the cave. Jaimie was just a random name, but that's only because I did not need her character's name to have a meaning, since her purpose was to die.


Names don't define people, the way you create the characters defines people. 'Casey' is going to be no more brave than if you replace the name with 'Raoul.' [addsig]




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Posted by Orpheus on Thu Apr 1st at 3:24pm 2004


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I chose the name Casey because I needed a person who would be brave enough to actually follow the trail of blood into the cave. Jaimie was just a random name, but that's only because I did not need her character's name to have a meaning, since her purpose was to die.


Names don't define people, the way you create the characters defines people. 'Casey' is going to be no more brave than if you replace the name with 'Raoul.'

unless of course, you're eating him

/runs from onslaught crowd who hates poor jokes no one understands

[addsig]




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Posted by Gollum on Thu Apr 1st at 3:45pm 2004


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Names don't define people, the way you create the characters defines people. 'Casey' is going to be no more brave than if you replace the name with 'Raoul.'

Generally true; certainly names cannot by themselves create a character. However, names can have significance: consider "Winston Smith" in Orwell's 1984.





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Re: Science-fiction book
Posted by Juim on Thu Apr 1st at 5:22pm 2004


I understand that you may not like my what I wrote, it was incomplete. It IS Your story I mean. Actually, if you compare the two (Yours, mine), my version merely expands on only the first nine sentences of yours. What you have written IMO, may be better suited for the dust jacket teaser of a novel. My whole point being that you tried to convey too much of a situation in too little of a space (2 paragraphs). Still though, I wish you luck and good writing!



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Posted by Orpheus on Thu Apr 1st at 5:25pm 2004


juim, it may be my imagination but, i think your avatar, makes mine drip faster.. especially when they are on the same page [addsig]



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Posted by Juim on Thu Apr 1st at 5:37pm 2004


LOL.

)thanks, I laughed coffee into my nose.(





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Posted by Orpheus on Thu Apr 1st at 5:50pm 2004


? posted by Juim

LOL.

)thanks, I laughed coffee into my nose.(

only cause i truly care ol' man

[addsig]





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