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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Mar 30th at 11:17pm 2004

i surf very few sites, but have found the net peculiar.

even though the web is world spanning, many sites i visit default to the USA, is this a local phenomenon?

i mean, if i go to www.weather.com it defaults to ours.. if i go to www.mapquest.com it defaults to us again.

i guess my question is, in order to default, does the net know from my IP origin, that i want american weather? or american roadways?

does anyone know this answer, or any other net peculiarities?

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Posted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Tue Mar 30th at 11:26pm 2004

It can tell from your ISP I assume. [addsig]



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Posted by Crono on Tue Mar 30th at 11:27pm 2004

Uh ... if you went to Sauidi Arabia you'd get the same mapquest.com and wheather.com. They're reserved domain names (Unless that country or ISP has blocked the domain). Once you reserver them you can put whatever you please on them. It seems to me that in America, that domains are more of a buisness trend then in other countries, such as, EVERY company has a website, which originates in the US. I'm not saying other countries' companies don't have websites or anything, it just seems to be an incredibly common practice with buisness. [addsig]



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Posted by fishy on Tue Mar 30th at 11:31pm 2004

i think it must just be that most sites are american based. it's always american sites that i end up in when i click on any of those 'meet like-minded people in your area' type of links.





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Posted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Tue Mar 30th at 11:32pm 2004

A better example is Google. If I type in google.com it redirects to google.ie [addsig]



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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Mar 30th at 11:32pm 2004

great edit there crono just in time too i might add

seriously tho, i wanna hear from non americans mostly, but i fear you're correct crono.

but, weather is indeed worldwide, it wasn't as if i said www.tigerdirect.com which is dedicated to american pc's.

the two sites i noted seem worldish ones to me.

if i wanted weather from the UK, and i did not wanna go thru a 1/2 dozen links at weather.com what site would i go to? same with road maps?

BTW this question is pointed toward any country.. i would be just as happy with Israels weather sites and India's for that matter

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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Mar 30th at 11:34pm 2004

? posted by Alien_Sniper
A better example is Google. If I type in google.com it redirects to google.ie

so you do indeed have your own google dave???

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Posted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Tue Mar 30th at 11:34pm 2004

? quote:
i think it must just be that most sites are american based. it's always american sites that i end up in when i click on any of those 'meet like-minded people in your area' type of links.


I keep clicking those by accident too... [addsig]



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Posted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Tue Mar 30th at 11:34pm 2004

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? posted by Jon The Great

so you do indeed have your own google dave???


Yeah, it's available in the Irish language too. [addsig]



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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Mar 30th at 11:36pm 2004

*looks down to see if fly is open*

what is it today? i ask questions and get asshole responces..

i was being serious dave.

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Posted by scary_jeff on Tue Mar 30th at 11:38pm 2004

Well .com is america's top level domain isn't it. .com is the one that american sites are supposed to have, so logically if you go to anysite.com, it's american, just like if you go to anysite.co.uk, its british, .co.fr, it's french, etc. The only difference is that in theory only a UK person can register a .co.uk name, wheras anyone can register a .com

So to answer your question, if I want UK weather, i go to weather.co.uk



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Posted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Tue Mar 30th at 11:39pm 2004

So was I bud. You can view it in Irish.. not sure why anyone would want to but hey. [addsig]



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Posted by DesPlesda on Tue Mar 30th at 11:43pm 2004

http://ip-to-country.webhosting.info/

PHP.net uses this to determine which mirror to use, and Google uses a similar system.

Weather.com and Mapquest.com are American-centred because that's what their target audience is. As Jeff said, .com is technically the American TLD, but it's become a de facto generic one now. Hence, Snarkpit.com, a british site



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Posted by Crono on Tue Mar 30th at 11:44pm 2004

I'm confused ... what did A_S say to upset you??

By the way, the pages ARE worldwide. However, there are many things you can do to make it seem like it is only for that section. Such as this, you can detect the language of the browser (amongst other things) and redirect accordingly. You can even check which version of what OS the person is using (If they are using Windows, it depends on which language version they use).

But as for flat out domain sites ... they might have one they might not ... Orph, you're also saying this as if weather.com is the official weather site ... There are many. This is why there are language buttons on sites and such.

I mean, if their domains changed depending on their placement in the world there would be sites you would never be able to see. Technically right now there are sites you can't 'see' because your operating system and keyboard don't support the language they're using.


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Whatever happened to their prefix idea? Such as, gam.blah.com for a gaming site. I don't remember if they implimented them or not.
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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Mar 30th at 11:50pm 2004

i posted this because i wanted to spark a new thread.

i posted this because i was genuinely curious.

posted by JON THE GREAT was a bit disconcerting crono.. you are not my psychoanalyst, stop pretending to be

and thanx for the responses thus far, i had never realized that .com was american by nature, since obviously snarkpit is not..

i have a massive bandwidth luxury, but i visit on average 3 sites per day, and possibly less than 20 different sites a year.

this topic, was not intended to incite a riot, i prefer it to remain informative...

thans jeff, and des for trying to answer my inquiry

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Posted by scary_jeff on Tue Mar 30th at 11:51pm 2004

hah, no problem



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Posted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Tue Mar 30th at 11:55pm 2004

Jon, since I'm in non java mode it won't let me quote two quotes. I just put in Jon the Great messing. It wasn't sarcastic or anything malicious. [addsig]



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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Mar 30th at 11:58pm 2004

? posted by Alien_Sniper
Jon, since I'm in non java mode it won't let me quote two quotes. I just put in Jon the Great messing. It wasn't sarcastic or anything malicious.

dave my affection for you is boundless, but today is a grumpy day.. it just seems like i woke up and snarkpit is posting crap answers..

when all this is over, we can go out for drinks

your will be hot chocolate i assume

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Posted by Crono on Wed Mar 31st at 12:06am 2004

Your psychoanalyst? I was actually confused as to what he said that upset you ... anyway. [addsig]



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Posted by Orpheus on Wed Mar 31st at 12:13am 2004

? posted by Crono
Your psychoanalyst? I was actually confused as to what he said that upset you ... anyway.

let it pass, crono.. i am tired, been driving way to long, and you are still new enuff to snarkpit to have missed much of its history.

i am not mad, i am grumpy... no reflection on present company.

jon the great was why.. dave knew it when he typed it

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