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Posted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Wed Mar 31st at 12:22am 2004

The new ban on smoking in the workplace just came into effect here and I think it's great. No more smelling of smoke and getting cancer. Hopefully it'll encourage people to give up. What do you think?

There are more laws coming which make it illegal for shops to display ciggarettes for sale, they have to be hidden from view. [addsig]



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Posted by Orpheus on Wed Mar 31st at 12:34am 2004

this poll is incomplete..

smokers should have a place of relative safety as an alternative to not smoking indoors.

dave, may i ask, do you, or did you smoke? your question/answers sound like a non-smoker posted them.

[addsig]



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Posted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Wed Mar 31st at 12:47am 2004

As far as I know outdoors is pretty safe.

I've smoked to see what it's like, never got hooked though... [addsig]



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Posted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Wed Mar 31st at 12:49am 2004

Edited for you Jon.

Only 1/4 of people smoke here. [addsig]



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Posted by Orpheus on Wed Mar 31st at 12:53am 2004

? posted by Alien_Sniper
As far as I know outdoors is pretty safe.

I've smoked to see what it's like, never got hooked though...

no... its not, by any means.

i used to smoke, did so for over 27 years, our workplace kicked us out the back door of the plant, no cover from rain, or snow, no heat, nada.

i would never force anyone to breathe my smoke, but was very upset that i was suddenly and violently discriminated upon.

alternatives were eventually provided, but i was shocked and dismayed that they were not taken into account PRIOR to implementing the actions of banning.

and i am so glad you didn't take it up, its harder to quit smoking, than anything i have ever attempted..

[edit] thanx dave

smoking area would have sufficed

[addsig]



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Posted by Crono on Wed Mar 31st at 12:56am 2004

I personally think smoking in general is a moronic thing to do. It doesn't accomplish anything except give you an addiction to something that's killing you, in a very painful way I might add.

Also, showing favor to those individuals is rather unfair, and I don't want to hear "life isn't fair". It's also pretty rude to smoke in front of anyone you please, in my opinion.

Orph, the way you feel about people on cell phones is about how I feel on smoking. Except smoking doesn't have as immediate effects, but more permanent ones (in general).

However, the US is a country of double standards. So, I wouldn't be surprised if they revoked some of these laws. I just think it would be best for everyone if all the corperations were honest, as the government should be. There wouldn't be any difficulties.

I'm babbling, no need to read this post, even though you're finishing it now ... *yells "look over there" and runs* [addsig]



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Posted by Orpheus on Wed Mar 31st at 1:02am 2004

smoking is a bad habit, even smokers admit to this.. but discrimination, no matter the good intentions, is still wrong.

i quit on 10/10/96 and will always be glad i did so, but i have a smokers mentality, and a sensitivity toward it.. i would oppose any method that forced people to stop smoking.

[addsig]



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Posted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Wed Mar 31st at 1:03am 2004

I pester anyone I care about to give up.

You forgot how cool smoking is crono.

Orph, why did you quit? [addsig]



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Posted by Crono on Wed Mar 31st at 1:07am 2004

Yeah, I think it's completly awesome that you can't see my moms lungs in an xray and that the male side of her family is more prone to have heart attacks because they've all been smokers .... real cool A_S. [addsig]



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Posted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Wed Mar 31st at 1:15am 2004

The was for sarcasm... [addsig]



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Posted by Orpheus on Wed Mar 31st at 1:17am 2004

? posted by Alien_Sniper
Orph, why did you quit?

the site of an emphysema ward my friend, actually its members

i found i was more attached to my health, than my cigs.

[addsig]



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Posted by Skeletor on Wed Mar 31st at 1:17am 2004

I would never be one of those people who intentionally coughed when passing by a smoker, because they probably already get enough sh** for smoking, which I think is dumb. It's just another form of discrimination to me.



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Posted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Wed Mar 31st at 1:22am 2004

Do you not think polluting other peoples air is an infringement of ones basic human rights? I don't really mind breathing a bit of smoke, I just think it's completely ignorant of people especially those who do it around children as childrens lungs aren't fully developed and are more susceptible to damage. [addsig]



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Posted by Crono on Wed Mar 31st at 1:26am 2004

A_S, ah.

I was actually talking about the smokers who're dicks and blow it in your face.

To be honest, if you're not around the smell of smoke a lot you can defiantly pick it up .... and it doesn't smell pretty, like flowers and my girlfriend .... But nasty, like old men farts and spoiled broccoli. [addsig]



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Posted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Wed Mar 31st at 1:30am 2004

Leave Jon and his intestinal problems out of this. The risk of a healthy grown person getting cancer from passive smoking is surprisingly low, it was hyped up a lot. [addsig]



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Posted by Crono on Wed Mar 31st at 1:32am 2004

Who's talking about a grown person getting cancer?

I said it smells bad and its rude (in the last post that is) [addsig]



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Posted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Wed Mar 31st at 1:35am 2004

Just a random point pertaining to smoking.

I think it smells alright, but I don't like to smell it because you know it's doing damage.

Glad they've finally passed a decent law for once. [addsig]



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Posted by Gwil on Wed Mar 31st at 1:51am 2004

I smoke, and I'm always happy to move away from folks if they dont appreciate it, and never randomly light up unless I feel it is permitted and know so. Passive smoking doesnt actually cause that high a number of deaths (still too many, admittedly) but i've encountered so much ignorant and rude hostility from non smokers on topics like this before (on other forums also) I tend not to say much... for fear of reprisals by the "clean" :/ [addsig]



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Posted by Crono on Wed Mar 31st at 1:54am 2004

hmm, I dont think my view on smoking effects my view on an individual. However, at times I think that that person will regret doing those thing at some point ... and sadly, you can't reverse smoking effects without a spare lung lol. [addsig]



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Posted by Orpheus on Wed Mar 31st at 2:02am 2004

i think, even non-smokers should be decent enough to want a safe area for smokers.

i have found though, that non smokers tend to lean far into the extreme when it comes to smokers rights.

in there minds, there is no such thing as discrimination, against a person, whom is being self destructive.

in fact, the plant i mentioned, had to be forced into providing accommodations, because the main boss, was a non-smoker, and couldn't fathom why anyone would stand in the cold rain to begin with. it never dawned upon him at all... that was the bigger crime IMO

[addsig]




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