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Posted by Yak_Fighter on Fri Apr 2nd at 1:34pm 2004


Well, that's because you play against bots... It's a lot more fun to imagine the other players you just killed swearing and getting really pissed off for taking the game too seriously.



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Posted by Cash Car Star on Fri Apr 2nd at 2:19pm 2004


Beta 7.0, about a week before 7.1 was released. I resented having to suggest that I am a l337 haxor by voting so, however. I don't play anymore, but two strong years and a week third is definitely no small amount.

OtZman - of course it's not fun if you're playing against HL bots, they're all third party and as such, not professionally made. If you want to play a fps with semi-intelligent bots, frankly I've found the UT series to be the game of choice. Utterly trashes the rest in single player replay.





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Posted by Monqui on Fri Apr 2nd at 4:59pm 2004


The UT bots are good, but I don't think they offer up that much of a challenge. I usually set the difficulty to adjust to my skill, and I usually end up still trouncing them on "Godlike." But they are fun, though. [addsig]



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Posted by Gollum on Fri Apr 2nd at 5:46pm 2004


I defy anyone to trounce the (Godlike) UT bots in a setting that favours bot strengths, such as a busy deathmatch game (especially if you max. out all their skills). It is just not humanly possible to compete with them for accuracy, at least with hitscan weapons.

However, they are easy to exploit in any game that favours tactical or intelligent play over sheer accuracy and reactions.





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Posted by Kage_Prototype on Fri Apr 2nd at 6:01pm 2004


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I defy anyone to trounce the (Godlike) UT bots in a setting that favours bot strengths, such as a busy deathmatch game (especially if you max. out all their skills). It is just not humanly possible to compete with them for accuracy, at least with hitscan weapons.

However, they are easy to exploit in any game that favours tactical or intelligent play over sheer accuracy and reactions.


...like onslaught... [addsig]




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Posted by Monqui on Fri Apr 2nd at 6:34pm 2004


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I defy anyone to trounce the (Godlike) UT bots in a setting that favours bot strengths, such as a busy deathmatch game (especially if you max. out all their skills). It is just not humanly possible to compete with them for accuracy, at least with hitscan weapons.

However, they are easy to exploit in any game that favours tactical or intelligent play over sheer accuracy and reactions.


I never really mess with the base skill adjustments, but I normally play with the bot base skill set to Godlike... And I normally end up winning. *shrug*

Normally, in a one-on-one match, I'll get my ass handed to me, but if there are 3-4 of them in a game, I normall win. [addsig]




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Posted by Cash Car Star on Fri Apr 2nd at 6:36pm 2004


? posted by Monqui
The UT bots are good, but I don't think they offer up that much of a challenge. I usually set the difficulty to adjust to my skill, and I usually end up still trouncing them on "Godlike." But they are fun, though.

You missed my comparison. My comparison was not UT Bots v. Players. My comparison was UT Bots v. Bots in any other deathmatch FPS. In this comparison, UT Bots have always been completely superior, imo. It's not just them being better. For example, many CS bots run around like retards, but once you confront one, they are deadly accurate. Sure the difficulty rating is therefore high, but the fun rating is like 0. Granted UT bots still have characteristics that make them play less strategically than humans; my opinion is that these properties are much further muted in UT than in other games. Obviously, the more complex the team game, the more exploitable they are (Assualt gameplay, for example), but I've still found them to be worthwhile competitors, even in CTF maps (although once I've learned their set defensive points it gets a bit more dull).





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Posted by Monqui on Fri Apr 2nd at 6:41pm 2004


Oh, no, I totally got the comparison, and whole heartedly agree with it. Sorry for the confusion. Just felt like bragging a little bit, for once [addsig]



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Posted by Gorbachev on Sat Apr 3rd at 2:08am 2004


? posted by 2dmin

omgomgomghaxhaxhaxnewbz0rhax0r csbshs blbk lolololololol pwn j00 hs hs hs argh!!!oneoneone awp whore!!oneoneone

lol. what exactly is wrong with cs? its a good, balanced game. sure, the community are often fags, but arent they with many popular games ?

I really don't think this game is balanced. It just seems like a whack of guns thrown in with really odd values given to them. So many guns that should waste people take forever, and other guns just plain own you. It's fun, but far from balanced.

[addsig]




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Posted by 2dmin on Sat Apr 3rd at 5:16am 2004


smiley like what, pray tell? =P

on average the pistols take 2-4 shots in the chest to kill. 1-2 headshots.

on average the sub machine guns take 3-5 shots in the chest to kill. 1-2 headshots.

on average the rifles take 2-3 shots in the chest to kill. 1 headshot

and the sniper rifles vary from 1 shot (awp) to 3 (auto sniper)

i think these are fairly realistic balances, with the possible exception of the glock, for gameplay's sake.

[addsig]



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Posted by Crono on Sat Apr 3rd at 9:06am 2004


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... on average the pistols take 2-4 shots in the chest to kill. 1-2 headshots.

on average the sub machine guns take 3-5 shots in the chest to kill. 1-2 headshots.

on average the rifles take 2-3 shots in the chest to kill. 1 headshot <<Bout damn time something only took one shot TO THE HEAD!!

and the sniper rifles vary from 1 shot (awp) to 3 (auto sniper)

i think these are fairly realistic balances ...


Last time I checked if you get shot in THE FACE you'll die. In my personal opinion (as you've bitched at me time and time again about ) I don't think CS is very balanced. Granted there are things I don't like about dod's weapon roster, but, to be honest, the more you play with them the better you get. And the last times I played CS those guns were damn innaccurate ... I'm getting really sick of the 'random pattern' bullet system for the guns.

Don't take any of this personally, I just felt like Lashing out at CS

True Belivers Go Here [addsig]




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Posted by 2dmin on Sat Apr 3rd at 10:35am 2004


:/ ... well obviously anything would kill you in 1 shot at the head ... but its made 1-2 headshots for the purposes of gameplay, so that a glock isnt as good as an ak-47 lol. i use the term "realism" loosely ... yes the realism in cs is "compromised" but its still cool [addsig]




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