Cool pictures of my physics project.
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Re: Cool pictures of my physics project.
Posted by xconspirisist on Tue Sep 9th at 7:43pm 2003


My physics project for a level :

http://chandra.harvard.edu/photo/0052/

( The crab nebula )

Obviously high in CG, but they do look quite cool - tell me what you think ?

 

Btw, anyting revolutionry happened around here? I havnt visited in a couple of weeks...





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Re: Cool pictures of my physics project.
Posted by Vash on Tue Sep 9th at 8:13pm 2003


Er, cool? [addsig]



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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Sep 9th at 8:21pm 2003


very cool.. [addsig]



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Posted by Myrk- on Tue Sep 9th at 8:58pm 2003


Looks good, but you are a fewl for ever choosing such a boring subject, sure some things are cool and interesting, but everything else is soooooooo boring.

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Re: Cool pictures of my physics project.
Posted by Tracer Bullet on Wed Sep 10th at 12:14am 2003


maybe I don't understand. a physics level? is this some wierd brit school thing? [addsig]



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Posted by Myrk- on Wed Sep 10th at 12:34am 2003


Not "a physics level" but a "physics A-level"

It's a qualification, when you're about 16/17 you do 2-4 A-levels, I won't complicate this thread by talking by AS levels! They just confuse matters when explaining the system to other country people, don't know why, it's a pretty simple concept...

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Re: Cool pictures of my physics project.
Posted by commandline-conquest on Wed Sep 10th at 12:48am 2003


Physics are an interest of mine as well. As orph said. Very cool. [addsig]



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Posted by Leperous on Wed Sep 10th at 2:10am 2003


? posted by xconspirisist

My physics project for a level :

http://chandra.harvard.edu/photo/0052/

( The crab nebula )

Obviously high in CG, but they do look quite cool - tell me what you think ?

I was one of the few people who trialed your new Physics A-levels a couple of years ago, it's such a joke now (managed to get 100% on exams in first year, one of the questions was 'estimate the width of your finger'!). I did dark matter & energy for my little project, but it ended out average because of the stupid restrictions and guidelines you have to follow, such as commenting on sources and your 'own thoughts' and all that junk. I'd be wary about doing something space related to be honest (unless the project marking scheme has changed...) because it doesn't tie in with what the retards who designed that course want.





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Posted by xconspirisist on Wed Sep 10th at 8:42am 2003


Its only a very minor project. Besides, space rocks

Here is a concept that really annoys me, you're traveling through space, in 'yer rocket, and see a sign. ' Space stops here ', what is beyond the sign ?

And one that really freaks me out, when your dead, your dead for enternity. And if you were consious, you'd be pretty damned bored, for eternity.





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Posted by Gav on Wed Sep 10th at 11:02am 2003


I would have thought that, the result of the electro signals, and neuro kinetic gibberish that occurs in your brain, is a form of conciousness, and depending on what kind, depends on what electrosignals are going on, how then could you be concious when dead? Because surely the electro signals stop?

I don't know what I'm talking about, just taking stabs in the dark....but hey!

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Posted by Leperous on Wed Sep 10th at 2:07pm 2003


How do you know 'space' isn't expanding at the speed of light and is thus impossible to escape?



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Posted by Orpheus on Wed Sep 10th at 2:11pm 2003


? posted by Leperous
How do you know 'space' isn't expanding at the speed of light and is thus impossible to escape?

i to believe in the big bang theory, but i have always wondered, of space is a bubble expanding at a given rate, whats on the outside of said bubble?

this is the only part that gives me pause..

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Posted by Leperous on Wed Sep 10th at 2:24pm 2003


Why should there be anything outside it, surely anything that's outside it is space? What's outside it IMHO is 'properly nothing', nadda- normal space you can move through, even though it's empty there must be something in it saying "this space exists and you can be inside it or move through it". Whereas outside probably lacks this 'spatialness' so you can't actually exist in/move through it and for all intents and purposes it's not there... an analogy- programs can be stored and exist inside a computer, but they can neither leave nor exist outside one!



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Re: Cool pictures of my physics project.
Posted by Gav on Wed Sep 10th at 2:25pm 2003


A group of scientists approach God, and state the simple fact, that he is not needed.

"We can explain pretty much everything on this planet, and off. And, now technology and science allow us, like you too make life from soil! There is little we can't do that you can."

God ponders this for a moment before responding, okay take a handfull of soil and do as you say, anything...

The Scientific representative bends over and goes to collect a handfull of soil when God says

"No no no, get your own soil....."

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Posted by Orpheus on Wed Sep 10th at 2:40pm 2003


? posted by Leperous
Why should there be anything outside it, surely anything that's outside it is space? What's outside it IMHO is 'properly nothing', nadda- normal space you can move through, even though it's empty there must be something in it saying "this space exists and you can be inside it or move through it". Whereas outside probably lacks this 'spatialness' so you can't actually exist in/move through it and for all intents and purposes it's not there... an analogy- programs can be stored and exist inside a computer, but they can neither leave nor exist outside one!

  sorry, but i cannot decipher all this, cause it sounds like jibberish..

but i cannot accept any theory that says there is something expanding into nothing..

the very fact that it is going someplace precludes any other concept as it must be going into nowhere..

yeah, sounds stupid to, but with only 12 years of school to draw upon, its the best i can come up with..

call it simplistic, but there has to be an edge to space, if the big bang theory is correct.. and as such, one inch on the other side of that edge, has to be someplace..

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Posted by Gav on Wed Sep 10th at 2:49pm 2003


? posted by Leperous
Why should there be anything outside it, surely anything that's outside it is space? What's outside it IMHO is 'properly nothing', nadda- normal space you can move through, even though it's empty there must be something in it saying "this space exists and you can be inside it or move through it". Whereas outside probably lacks this 'spatialness' so you can't actually exist in/move through it and for all intents and purposes it's not there... an analogy- programs can be stored and exist inside a computer, but they can neither leave nor exist outside one!

So lemme put this into an analogy, Space = Gas Bubble within a rock? And the bubbles expanding but, the rock is infinite so doesn't expand. (Due to the fact that it is not ordinary matter, volume is irrelevant)

 

How does that sound?

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Posted by Leperous on Wed Sep 10th at 3:02pm 2003


I'm not saying the Universe is infinite, I'm just saying that what's 'outside' doesn't exist. The Universe isn't expanding into anything. Assuming it is, of course. What I'm basically saying is that what's outside of it doesn't exist and you can't exist inside it as you won't have a location- Orph, think of my computer program analogy, it can exist inside of one but outside there's no processors or anything that can run it..!



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Posted by Orpheus on Wed Sep 10th at 3:07pm 2003


? posted by Leperous
I'm not saying the Universe is infinite, I'm just saying that what's 'outside' doesn't exist. The Universe isn't expanding into anything. Assuming it is, of course. What I'm basically saying is that what's outside of it doesn't exist and you can't exist inside it as you won't have a location- Orph, think of my computer program analogy, it can exist inside of one but outside there's no processors or anything that can run it..!

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sorry, i don't doubt you, nor am i educated enuff to do so even were i, its just not within my ability to grasp..

the concept of a computer program not being outside a PC doesn't cut it with me because, we are outside of a pc, and i can imagine it inside the computer, and i am real enuff.. if the universe were a pc hard drive, then something must be outside looking at it as well..

anyways, you have surpassed my ability to follow the conversation.. i must bow out and return to a casual observer..

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Posted by Gwil on Wed Sep 10th at 3:37pm 2003


Physicists are irritating If you say "what is the universe expanding into, or if it does have an edge then what is it sitting inside" they usually retort with "thats a stupid question" or so forth..

IMO it is not in mans intellectual capacity or interests to even begin trying to understand space and the universe, wasting money which could be spent on far more pressing issues... but that's just my 2 cents

What was before the big bang... sub atomic tunneling in the quantum vaccum of course! So what was that inside? THATS A STUPID QUESTION!?





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Posted by Finger on Wed Sep 10th at 3:56pm 2003


These theories about what's beyond 'that which we can percieve', may as well be theories about the secret lives of Seamonkeys.  It's comparable to an Ant, looking up, pondering human nature - he'll never have the big picture; as we will never be able to percieve beyond our actual point of perception, without injecting human error, and imagination.  Therefore, debates about this stuff, I find dizzying and very circular.

I've had a similar reaction to relegion, and It's theories. 

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I find this interesting, obvious, yet profound in my eyes, and is my choice of metaphysical fantasy: 

-At the macro level, we see the structure of a solar system.  Sun, being center - planets and other bodies spiraling around that point.

-At the micro level, we see the structure of an Atom.  Nucleus being center, and electrons spinning around that point.

So, obviously we witness a repeating system, or structure - at both extremes of our perception.  We also see from nature, that life likes to take simple patterns (fractal) and systems, and repeat them at different heirarchal levels.  Put these two observations together, and It seems pretty likely that these structures and systems would continue on, far beyond our perception, in both directions (macro and micro), leaving us, (our percieved universe) as a speck; a neutron, within an atom, within solar system, within a universe, etc.etc.

To me, this is at least the most romantic theory.






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