Posted by Skeletor on Fri Apr 2nd at 9:05pm 2004
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Posted by Crono on Fri Apr 2nd at 9:18pm 2004
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| Yes, GOTHIKA was very good, but very dark. It was surprising how similar the basic plot was to The Ring, but I liked it better than The Ring. |
I wouldn't have guessed from the trailors. It looked like a hunk of crap with a side of s**tty plot. Maybe I'll check it out if I don't have to pay for it. [addsig]
Posted by Forceflow on Fri Apr 2nd at 9:18pm 2004
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Posted by Diarmaidx2 on Fri Apr 2nd at 9:46pm 2004
and spirited away, anyone who hasent seen this should go find it now.
yea, im a big kid.
Posted by Kain on Sat Apr 3rd at 12:09am 2004
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Posted by Orpheus on Sat Apr 3rd at 12:13am 2004
gothika followed the same sort of plot as "stir of echo's" and "the ring" i suppose, at least it was of the same sort of genre'
and as far as cartoons go, "princess mononoke" was one of my favorites..
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Posted by Cash Car Star on Sat Apr 3rd at 12:16am 2004
Last movies I watched that were pretty good were El Mariachi Trilogy, Lost in Translation, Bad Santa and Vanilla Sky. Going to see Hellboy tomorrow. Movies I think people should be on the look out for are Anchorman and Envy.
I have a hard time believing Gothika turned out to be a decent movie, but hey, anything can happen.
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Posted by Skeletor on Sat Apr 3rd at 12:47am 2004
I guess it's just a matter of opinion. Anyway, I LOVE LOST IN TRANSLATION! And I just saw Vanilla Sky recently, how weird. It was pretty good.
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Posted by Orpheus on Sat Apr 3rd at 1:19am 2004
funny, i thought vanilla sky blew chunks..
amazing our various tastes ![]()
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Posted by Crono on Sat Apr 3rd at 2:18am 2004
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| gothika followed the same sort of plot as "stir of echo's" and "the ring" i suppose, at least it was of the same sort of genre'
and as far as cartoons go, "princess mononoke" was one of my favorites.. |
Well both of those movies are pretty damn good ... but gothika at no point looked good ... I suppose I'll watch it sometime.
Also, Mononoke is NOT a cartoon, it's anime, there is, belive it or not, a difference. That's your final warning!
Posted by Orpheus on Sat Apr 3rd at 2:33am 2004
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| Also, Mononoke is NOT a cartoon, it's anime, there is, belive it or not, a difference. That's your final warning! |
i watched "Jason and the Argonauts" as a child, did i mention claymation is cool.. 
cartoon or anime, its all apples and oranges to me.. i watch animated movies such as princess mononoke, and i like them... the definition is unimportant to me, and probably everyone in my age bracket as well.
i am not above watching, and enjoying movies such as "dinosaur" , "atlantis", or even "tarzan" i see no difference between these and "bugs bunny the movie" or "fantasia"
i know the subject is serious to you, but to me its all ___________flatline______________
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Posted by Cassius on Sat Apr 3rd at 3:17am 2004
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funny, i thought vanilla sky blew chunks.. amazing our various tastes |
By the end of that movie, I was literally asking Tom Cruise to jump off the f**king building.
There are a lot of imitators, but there are only a couple films of our day and age with real philosophical value. Vanilla Sky is an imitator, though the part where you see that chick's tits is nice. ![]()
Posted by Crono on Sat Apr 3rd at 4:01am 2004
The weird thing is, I hated it (the newer version) when I first saw it ... but over the last year it's been growing on me ... I don't know why though.
Also, two hours from now I will be watching the opening credits for Guillermo del Toro's version of Hellboy, woo! Ron Perlman kicked ass in del Toro's last comic book film (blade II) and he'll kick ass in this one as well. [addsig]
Posted by Hornpipe2 on Sat Apr 3rd at 7:38am 2004
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| Also, Mononoke is NOT a cartoon, it's anime, there is, belive it or not, a difference. That's your final warning! |
...It's a frigging cartoon. [addsig]
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Posted by Monqui on Sat Apr 3rd at 8:12am 2004
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| Actually, it's based off of a Spanish movie by the same title: "Vanilla Sky", which also starred Penelope Cruize.
The weird thing is, I hated it (the newer version) when I first saw it ... but over the last year it's been growing on me ... I don't know why though. Also, two hours from now I will be watching the opening credits for Guillermo del Toro's version of Hellboy, woo! Ron Perlman kicked ass in del Toro's last comic book film (blade II) and he'll kick ass in this one as well. |
It was a remake of the Spanish film Abre Los Ojos (it literally means Open Your Eyes). If you catch it, that's the message that Julianna Gianni left as his alarm sound.
And I'm sorry- Hellboy just looks too terrible... [addsig]
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Posted by Crono on Sat Apr 3rd at 8:50am 2004
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| Well I went to dictionary.com, thinking I would find that a 'cartoon' is just an animation, and was going to disagree with Crono. In fact, to qualify as a cartoon, an animation has to be intentionaly funny, so I will instead side with Crono on this one - anime isn't a cartoon |
Woo Hoo!
Just got back from seeing Hellboy. It's not bad. Not great. I think, unless you're a fan of the comic, you won't be fully captivated by this movie. Perlman was great though. The only thing that kind of bothered me was how FBI agents were almost as if they were bait and had no signifigance what so ever ... But that was about it. Everything else is pretty good, not to heavy of a story though (like most first time comic book movies, Think X-Men ... the only reason why it seemed so important was that x-men has a wider fan basis).
Anyway, I liked it. [addsig]
Posted by Leperous on Sat Apr 3rd at 11:26am 2004
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Posted by ReNo on Sat Apr 3rd at 12:50pm 2004
Generally animes have plot to them, cartoons very rarely do. Cartoons are almost 100% light hearted and aimed at kids, anime CAN be aimed at kids (pokemon, DBZ, etc...) but more often is aimed at teens/adults looking for a decent storyline mixed in with a cool visual style...and more often than not a little bit of shooting and porn ![]()
Films I've seen recently...not too many actually. I watched a Hong Kong film called "Infernal Affairs" not too long ago, which I enjoyed thoroughly, perhaps mostly due to the fact it starred Tony Leung and Anthony Wong, and featured the ever stunning Kelly Chen. The prequel to it (a sequel, but set before) was also cool, though not quite as good in my opinion. Still need to see the third in the series, a proper sequel, to finish off the story.
Also saw a couple of crazy special effects packed Hong Kong films lately also - Shaolin Soccer and Volcano High. Shaolin Soccer is a mad film about some Shaolin monks forming a football team. It also features genetically enhanced opponents, breakdancing, a football style game of dodgeball, and Vicki Zhao looking nowhere near as nice as she normally does. The effects are absolutely amazing and some of the film had me in stitches. Definately worth watching if you get the chance.
Volcano High was a good laugh too, again its effects heavy, but then as its set in a high school with loads of psychic pupils that often fight, I guess thats to be expected. No a great film but reminded me a lot of the game "Rival Schools", which was a good thing ![]()
About Princess Mononoke - I think style wise its about as close an anime to a cartoon that I've ever seen, perhaps mostly down to its use of voice actors who are famous. Another anime that is a borderline cartoon is "Castle in the Sky", or it might be called "Laputa" or something possibly. It was another pretty cool film but felt more like an american animated film than an anime.
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Posted by Orpheus on Sat Apr 3rd at 12:51pm 2004
| ? posted by scary_jeff |
| Well I went to dictionary.com, thinking I would find that a 'cartoon' is just an animation, and was going to disagree with Crono. In fact, to qualify as a cartoon, an animation has to be intentionally funny, so I will instead side with Crono on this one - anime isn't a cartoon |
hmm, so the defining pretense is humour?
what if the anime has funny portions?
you know, it sounds to me like, people want to separate themselves from the cartoon bunch, by attempting to create a sub-level of animated cartoons.
i have seen many cartoons.. real cartoons, with no real humor at all.
i must admit, i am really confused though.. i don't see how being intentionally funny is a cartoon, and serious drama is anime 
"fritz the cat" had all aspects of style, humor,sex,drugs,death, and so forth, was it anime, or a cartoon?
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