Under how high r_Speeds should mappers limit themselves if they want a good map.

Think carefully since most of you will go for the lowest , but dont forget that lower r_speeds means less eye-candy!

it might be interesting to see , if there are enough "new kids" to have this poll go askew

this topic has been debated by the best here ages ago.. and resolved i might add

and no, i wont post the upper limit number cause i wanna see how this poll plays out.

i would ask, that the other old timers not either, let this play out a bit 1st, then we can do our magic

and andrei i think you should lose the red text, it makes you look like a n00b, we all know what causes r_speeds

yeah, doesnt matter what bloody processor/card you have, itl lag once you reach the engines limits anyway

1000 = acceptable.

R_speeds come down to how good the mapper is. A good mapper will have great visuals yet the r_speeds will remain low because he has planned his level well...

As Orph said we resolved all this long ago, but I feel the results will be different this time, most people have better PC's now.

ahh, but which maps?

will your new pc, make a crappy 2000 wpoly map look and run as smooth as a great 800 one?

now think before you answer, cause you will be inclined to say YES, in defense of your new machine.. but i suspect, if you are honest, you will say no, cause its the truth.

your new PC can prolly run circles around the old one, but defining better now thats another issue entirely. you convince yourself that a 3000xp is a massive machine, so you are sure that HL runs better. the fact is, the engine is 5+ years old, the technology now cannot circumvent this.. nor can the HL engine serious utilize the new hardware specs, its hard to explain but think of it this way, your car can do 100mph at half throttle, you have 1/2 a throttle left, but when you mash on it, there is only a slight increase in speed, you actually go 100 in the 1st half, but only about 110 in the entire second half.. your engine cannot exceed the designed specs.

course, someone will mention a blower in relation to speeds, but a blower is not a video card, we are talking software, NOT hardware.

the comparison holds if you remember this, the software is your cars engine.. the pc specs do not alter these much.

i fear i am not right, but far from wrong.. cause i am not a software expert, but you must admit, i have critiqued 100's of maps... i have a tiny bit of experience in how maps play on certain machines.. albiet, much smaller than a 3000xp

your comp, started to lag at 1000 sir, it becomes noticeable.. when ever, or what ever stage you find intolerable.. thats the whole point here. the point is, you find it intolerable, at a much higher level than some others do. but the threshold is 1000.