Which system do you think will take over?
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Re: Which system do you think will take over?
Posted by matt on Sun Apr 11th at 3:33pm 2004


I think for some things the imperial system will always be used (height, weight etc) but for measurment I think that metric is the way to go. [addsig]



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Posted by wil5on on Sun Apr 11th at 3:48pm 2004


I dont see why imperial should be used at all, rather than the fact that its already in use. [addsig]



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Posted by Tracer Bullet on Sun Apr 11th at 5:00pm 2004


? posted by Crono
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Baring the complete destruction of science and rational thought, the United States and Britain will eventually come to their sense and adopt the metric system.

In all honesty, even american scientist aren't stupid enough to use the english system. those who are on the cutting edge of technology already use metric for everything. it's merely the ignorant masses who cling to the english system.


...I'm guessing that includes Nasa, since they use the English system for most all of their calculations (thus losing the Mars orbiter). Nasa worked with another company overseas, I don't remember which, but they both made assumptions. Nasa assumed everyone would use English measurments. The other company assumed everyone would use Metric measurments. Well I think you guys know what happened after that.

But yes, the english system literally only has a handful of measurments while metric has microscopic measurements. Ever wonder why rulers have inches and centimeters? an inch is the smallets length measurment for the English system, while metric can go down to yoctometers (for length), if you wonder how long that is:

1 yoctometer = 1x10^(-24) meters = 2.5381x10^(-26) inches

that's pretty small just to be clear. and obviously 1 is more precise then 2.53807106599x10^(-26).

I vote metric, since it's been used longer and because most technology we have is based on it, and not the english system. (Astronamy for example, planet alignment, so on so forth).

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Lybia doesn't use Imperial, they use metric. Where did you hear otherwise?
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The ignorant masses was a joke. I still use inches, pounds gallons and fahrenheit for every day uses just like the rest of you...

I beleve the NASA screwup was the other way around. NASA had contracted with Lockheed (an american company) for the thrusters on the probe. Lockheed reported the thrust in pounds, but NASA assumed it was in newtons, hence there was actualy a factor of two discrepency.

The "number" of units makes no difference whatsoever. the only thing which makes the metric system better is the fact of how easy it is to convert everything. you could just as easily say 10^-12 inches ans 10^-12 m. just because there isn't a name for the imperial version is no reason not to use it. you could afterall call it a picoinch to paralell the picometer...

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Posted by Crono on Sun Apr 11th at 6:27pm 2004


Was it an American company?? Weird, no news item seems to be correct then ...

Anyway, there are discrepencies though. Since, there really is no english unit for mass, there's weight/force which is pounds, but ... is there a unit for mass? I'm honestly asking here. Obviously SI is Kilograms.

There are other systems I can thank God no one uses anymore, or at least not widely. What system was it that the slug was used in? [addsig]




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Posted by DAN200 on Sun Apr 11th at 9:26pm 2004


To all metric haters:

The metric system is just plain easier to use and calculate with, all metric measurements are based on one unit (one metre, one gram, one volt, one farad, one byte, whatever) with standard prefixes for one thousand (kilo), one million (mega), one hundreth (centi), one one thousanth (sp?) (mili), one millionth (micro) and so on. It just makes things easier, and you can do calculations and stuff without worrying if your units match up properly. On the other hand, in imperial, you have a load of different measurments for every quantity all in seemingly unrelated proportions to one another, for instance, simply for distance and area in imperial you have miles, furlongs, leagues, inches, feet, hands, acres, hectares, perches, roods, links and chains, all of which are most peculiarilly linked to each other. Wheras in metric we have metres for distance and metres square for areas.

Now tell me that dosent make more sense.





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Posted by Orpheus on Sun Apr 11th at 9:32pm 2004


hate is to strong a word for this..

my tired old brain refuses to make the transition.. its not hate at all.

also, as i said, almost everything in the US supports S.A.E.

any of us would not debate the accuracy of metrics in calculating stuff.. it is by far superior, but how damned many of us, need that level of accuracy in everyday things???

i think, i will stick to S.A.E.

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Posted by Yak_Fighter on Sun Apr 11th at 9:46pm 2004


? posted by DAN200

To all metric haters:

The metric system is just plain easier to use and calculate with, all metric measurements are based on one unit (one metre, one gram, one volt, one farad, one byte, whatever) with standard prefixes for one thousand (kilo), one million (mega), one hundreth (centi), one one thousanth (sp?) (mili), one millionth (micro) and so on. It just makes things easier, and you can do calculations and stuff without worrying if your units match up properly. On the other hand, in imperial, you have a load of different measurments for every quantity all in seemingly unrelated proportions to one another, for instance, simply for distance and area in imperial you have miles, furlongs, leagues, inches, feet, hands, acres, hectares, perches, roods, links and chains, all of which are most peculiarilly linked to each other. Wheras in metric we have metres for distance and metres square for areas.

Now tell me that dosent make more sense.

It doesn't. It's not that much harder to divide by 12 (or what have you) instead of 10. Plus outside of science there is little need to readily convert units around all the time. I don't need to know how many feet I traveled if I went 15.2 miles, and if I did I could easily divide by the correct number. That's why we invented calculators. Besides, English units are generally bigger, and we all know that bigger = better, especially in America!





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Posted by Orpheus on Sun Apr 11th at 9:49pm 2004


? posted by Yak_Fighter

Besides, English units are generally bigger, and we all know that bigger = better, especially in America!

*looks at big pile of diapers in corner*

yeah right

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Posted by Crono on Sun Apr 11th at 10:10pm 2004


Actually the simplest divisions are multiplications by 1 or 10 or 100 so on so forth because you simply move the decimal place left or right; it requires no real calculations or thought (When using the metric system you really only multiply unless except in your value calculation, after all multiplication and division are pretty much the same thing once you get down to it).

Since Dan brought up the prefixes. I thought it'd be great to have a YottaByte of RAM or 1Yb. Look up how big that prefix is and you'll want it too. [addsig]




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Posted by Yak_Fighter on Sun Apr 11th at 10:15pm 2004


? posted by Crono
Actually the simplest divisions are multiplications by 1 or 10 or 100 so on so forth because you simply move the decimal place left or right; it requires no real calculations or thought (When using the metric system you really only multiply unless except in your value calculation, after all multiplication and division are pretty much the same thing once you get down to it).

What do you think I am, a first grader? I know that.





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Posted by Orpheus on Sun Apr 11th at 10:17pm 2004


? posted by Crono
Since Dan brought up the prefixes. I thought it'd be great to have a YottaByte of RAM or 1Yb. Look up how big that prefix is and you'll want it too.

a googol of ram would be nice

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Posted by Crono on Sun Apr 11th at 10:33pm 2004


Yes, a GoogolByte of ram would be better. But ... does your house have enough storage space for that amount of ram? and can you afford the electricity bill? not to mention can you handle that amount of heat?? [addsig]



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Posted by JFry on Sun Apr 11th at 11:29pm 2004


Interesting how this turned out. I think most people would agree that the metric system is better. It was designed for ease of use whereas a foot was simply a measurement of a foot and so on. Personally, the reason I use the imperial system is because that is what everything 'common' here is measured in. Really someone in the US who didn't know it would be somewhat helpless on some things. And I agree about it being because of what you learn when you are young. I think metric will eventually win out, but prolly not until the US works on its crappy schools.





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Posted by Gorbachev on Mon Apr 12th at 3:25am 2004


? posted by Campaignjunkie

My bad. Actually Googled the information up and apparently:

"In 1990 there remained only three nations that had not converted to the metric system, they were Burma, Liberia, and the United States."

Libya, Liberia, same thing.

The US is the only real big "world factor" of those, the other two are just kind of 3rd world. I guess I had intended to say that even England wasn't using Imperial. As well as all the other developed nations. Although here in Canada we end up with a butchery of both since we get so much American content mixed with our own. So all cars have both M/hr. and Km/hr. I know my height in m as well as feet, although I only know my weight in lbs. Doing anything with a ruler though I work in metric.

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Posted by Vash on Mon Apr 12th at 4:59am 2004


Read me sig and learn who I am; then you'll relize my disposistion with learning the Metric System.

Being 15; my mind is full of Mapping, and sex.

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Posted by Crono on Mon Apr 12th at 5:02am 2004


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Read me sig and learn who I am; then you'll relize my disposistion with learning the Metric System.

Being 15; my mind is full of Mapping, and sex.


It should be more developed then that [addsig]




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Posted by Gorbachev on Mon Apr 12th at 5:09am 2004


I who am 18 have a mind of sex, hockey and mapping. That roughly covers it, I guess computers and overclocking or tweaking anything with moving/tweakable parts can go in there too. [addsig]



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Posted by Cassius on Mon Apr 12th at 5:26am 2004


Come on, let's face facts here - if the US starts using the metric system, then the terrorists have won.





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Posted by Orpheus on Mon Apr 12th at 9:41am 2004


? posted by Gorbachev
I who am 18 have a mind of sex, hockey and mapping. That roughly covers it, I guess computers and overclocking or tweaking anything with moving/tweakable parts can go in there too.

wait till you get older, bladder control moves up that list considerably.

*looks over at large pile of diapers*

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Posted by pepper on Mon Apr 12th at 9:55am 2004


indeed, in amerca you got one big pile of **** in a ugly white house.

here in holland we cnat do big. we got 16.000.000 people on 250x250 km. we are the most dense populatoed country in europe

and we use the best measuring systme in the wordl, the metric system






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