Which School Course Will Make The most Impact?
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Re: Which School Course Will Make The most Impact?
Posted by Orpheus on Sun Apr 11th at 9:47pm 2004


the recent discussion about graduating, got me to wondering..

i realize i am a bit out of touch with school subject matter, but i am hoping the basics are still being taught?

anywhos, which subject do you feel a person needs most to make it through life, or better, which subject impacts your life most.

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Posted by Crono on Sun Apr 11th at 10:04pm 2004


To be honest, math and science go hand in hand, there really should be no seperation. The only difference is in Science you actually use your results

Also, if you're talking about High School science classes, they are rather meaningless unless they include calculus. The reason why is later on you'll have to re-learn everything with calculus, and if you're really going to use that field in your studies, you will need to greatly understand it all, meaning, you need calculus.

I think the most valuable class I had in high school was CAD or something as such. I don't care for history, so, I didn't give a monkey's ass about SS. English was boring and overly drawn out. They never really just tell you the rules until college, before that they let you suffer and tell you you're a morron ... well at least at the school district I was in ... anyway. Math was probably the most useful in your catagories, since it built a base that I would use later on.
Science, like I said, I had to relearn in college. The ideas are the same, but there's a reason why not many people understand Physics in High School, they're taught in a very confusing manner, basically because you can't be explained anything, since you don't know higher levels of math. But anyway.

I'd say Math (But in all actuality, it would be Art, CAD, or shop, since those are directly used in my day to day life). [addsig]




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Posted by Orpheus on Sun Apr 11th at 10:09pm 2004


being only a high school grad bud, i have to post what i know..

and i would assume, that anyone taking say biology would vote science, and anyone taking accounting would vote math.. cad programs? i would have to say math, not art, but hey what do i know, the only cad program i have used is hammer, and its definitely math IMO.

if your goal is politics, i would assume social sciences, and if you plan on writing a book, then english..

i tried to post the basics, i was kinda hoping that you all would realize that with only 6 choices, you would need to group your decisions

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Posted by Kage_Prototype on Sun Apr 11th at 10:19pm 2004


Really, out of the subjects listed, English probbly had the most impact on me. I always found it easy, and apparently I'm a good writer, so I chose that one. I always preferred the original writing portions, rather than applying linguistics on an advert for paint thinner or something. Boring as hell as an academic subject though.

[EDIT]: Now that I think about it, school subjects never really influenced me in my interests, besides the creative writing portions of english classes. My life just seems to revolve video games and music (with writing as sort of a side-hobby), and I'm damned certain these interests didn't stem from school. Really makes you think on how relevant school is on someone's life. [addsig]




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Posted by Crono on Sun Apr 11th at 10:21pm 2004


Politics with Social Science?? Odd, through out my schooling Social Science is just History, like there is no difference. We never even talked about the politics behind anything that happened or current events, really.

But Orph, defining those groupings, I could say that technically EVERYTHING falls under math. CAD is not math, you don't use intensive calculations, after all you can just click to make a drawing.

If you think Hammer is a math program, you should use some actual math programs , They're funky.

I think that most subjects are muttled together now. Because in English classes, I basically read books, no reports or anything as such, but just read a lot. Last time I checked English is suppose to teach you the English language and how it works. But ... anyway.

Science becomes moot if you actually want to use it in a day to day situation, because there's a slim chance you'll do it properly with HS Sciences.

So, basically the only thing that allows you to build is math, as I said before.

Other things that you can DIRECTLY use from HS are: Art, Shop/CAD/Basic Engineering, and probably some entertainment areas, which would probably fall under art again.

Other then those, you need more schooling, or money to buy books, to learn them properly.

Also, most of what I'm learning in College wasn't even offered in HS. C, C++, Assembly ... come on, the tech support leader asked me for help all the time in HS.
I'm just saying in my situation, it was a big waste of time for the most part. I really wish I had better access online and such, maybe I'd have some maps released by now if I did [addsig]




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Posted by Orpheus on Sun Apr 11th at 10:31pm 2004


well crono, no matter how you break it down, if people vote accordingly, the numbers will be ok

and the word is "moot" not "mute" silly

hmm, is not "social science" and "social studies" the same course??

we learned politics in social studies..

/walks away mumbling about my own inadequacies

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Posted by Crono on Sun Apr 11th at 10:40pm 2004


woopsie, thought I wrote moot ... damn autopilot typing.

Yeah, social science and social studies are the same course. I'm just saying when I went to public school it was just a history class.

I think we covered economy (Such as what is really means, nothing more) for like one day, but that was it.

Who cares about the numbers? I was just making discussion ... maybe I envoke that too often [addsig]




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Posted by Wild Card on Sun Apr 11th at 10:42pm 2004


? posted by Crono
woopsie, thought I wrote moot ... damn autopilot typing.

yes?...

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Posted by Edge Damodred on Sun Apr 11th at 11:02pm 2004


I would have to go with math by far, it's definitely helped me the most. My mind is bent towards vector and matrix math lately... [addsig]



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Posted by Crono on Sun Apr 11th at 11:10pm 2004


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I would have to go with math by far, it's definitely helped me the most. My mind is bent towards vector and matrix math lately...


As it will be for the rest of your career and possibly life mwahahaha.

Wait ... my life potentially has the same out come [addsig]




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Posted by Wild Card on Sun Apr 11th at 11:19pm 2004


Well at least you guys are doing something. I have to go back to high school next year, and after that, I've no idea what Im doing. [addsig]



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Posted by Crono on Sun Apr 11th at 11:26pm 2004


Uh ... goto college

In all actuality no one really knows what they want to do (major career wise) until they goto college anymore.

I know so many people who have changed their major so many times, it's nuts. They're never going to finish at this rate.

I think I'm one of the only people I know who after three years still has the major they started out with. Oh well. Be a *insert sterotypical canadian-official title here* or something.

Or run from the authorities after you mutilate that poor salesman. [addsig]




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Posted by Yak_Fighter on Sun Apr 11th at 11:34pm 2004


Being well rounded is most important in getting an education, as all the subjects relate to one another in the real world and completely ignoring some for others will certainly be a hinderance in later life.

Here in college I get to hear too many people tell me that my majors (Econ and Poly Sci) are useless and that I am a pussy or stupid for having dropped out of Computer Science and Engineering, but I'd much rather know the whole picture instead of a tiny fraction of human knowledge. I'm going to vote for social science because too many think they are worthless, and it's sad to see people limiting themselves in such a manner.





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Posted by Crono on Sun Apr 11th at 11:48pm 2004


In all actuality, Computer Science is turning out to be much much more then purly programming and computers. Its also, in a sense, buisness, and communications, not to mention english (documentation) and speech. But I know what you mean Yak. It is annoying, especially when some of your family members are that way, it can be very detramental. [addsig]



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Posted by JFry on Sun Apr 11th at 11:59pm 2004


? posted by Kage_Prototype

Now that I think about it, school subjects never really influenced me in my interests[...]. My life just seems to revolve video games and music

Heh, I can totally relate to this

I chose math simply because if I had my choice this is the field I would like to learn more of.





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Posted by ReNo on Mon Apr 12th at 12:07am 2004


Hehe, I'm the same, school is something you have to do, its had very little control over my interests or choice of career path. I guess its given me the sort of knowledge that is essential to get into my career path, but to be honest, most of the stuff I need to know has been learnt outside of school, with the exception of maths stuff. So I vote maths...even if I do hate it. [addsig]



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Posted by fraggard on Mon Apr 12th at 1:50am 2004


I don't know about your subjects in MadEnglishPeopleLand but I thought science subjects were the most important. Of course, it goes together with math, but I feel the average high-school course on math is far too involved to be of too much good to anybody. Like this guy says, you can't separate mathematics from physics, and our (my) system does exactly that. Once math stops making sense in the real world (I'm thinking about Complex plane integration here) there's no meaning in it. But somehow The Sciences still manage to retain a link to the real world.



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Posted by GreenDragon on Mon Apr 12th at 2:59am 2004


Ok im going to make my first point for you guys, I goto school in canada (no they dont tell us howto build the perfect igloo) and i know alot of you are american schooled so things are different down there i think.

Anywho, here i think all subjects are important for getting through life right up until the end of grade 10.

In math 10, thats when they cover things like percentages, geometry (like finding the lenght of sides and such), finding variables in slighlty complex questions. Math 10 goes a little over the edge with what you "need" to know but its good to get some practice at some really weird real world equations. After that i think it should be electable for math. Unless your wanting to do real heavy amth stuff, the average person doenst really need it.

Science 10 i truly cant remember, i think it was pretty good thou, there is no sci 11, its when the sci's split off and im taking Earth Science which i s alugh and a half

English 10 was a good class, not much different then my sci 11 so i say keep english as an improtant class.

Social Studies 10 is good and here its manditory til you complete 11. Good class, learn about history and current events, tying them together. Stuff that you can relate with is good.

Ok so what did i choose? I choose other because the high school class that make sthe most impact to me is something way different then you would all expect. The class that has the most impact on me is........

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PE!

Thats right, Gym class. Im going into the canadian army for helicopter pilot training, need ot be fit and besides being healthy is far more important to me then being some 300 pound or 90 pound brainiac.





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Posted by Tracer Bullet on Mon Apr 12th at 4:23am 2004


As much as I love science, and need math as the essential tool for understanding physical phenomenon, I can't help but vote for English here because of this criteria:

which subject do you feel a person needs most to make it through life

Your English skills are your public persona. they determine to a large degree how other people perceive and react to you. It does not matter how good you are at math, how much you know about history, your wily your understanding of human nature in social science, or your genius in the physical sciences. If you cannot present yourself effectively, and communicate your ideas in an articulate manor, all else is worthless.





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Posted by Gorbachev on Mon Apr 12th at 4:40am 2004


You should probably clarify that to language in general. [addsig]




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