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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Thu May 26th at 8:17pm 2005

Not sure if I missed this before, but I'm liking the new "go to page" drop down menu.




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Posted by Leperous on Thu May 26th at 8:34pm 2005

Unfortunately, it's still pretty ugly <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/sad.gif">



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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Thu May 26th at 8:44pm 2005

*shrug*

With me its function over form.




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Posted by Dark Tree on Thu May 26th at 10:30pm 2005

2 things:

1. I don't know what ATM was referring, but the 'GO TO' finction is in front of the regular drop down menu (}like if you drag your mouse over forums, it goes behind the go to feature.)

2. Have you considered adding Competions and such under the 'features' section?

Great site, Lep, and keep it up. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">





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Posted by Orpheus on Fri May 27th at 4:48pm 2005

Not a suggestion or a bug. I just noticed a curiosity.

My spell checker used to always want to replace "Snarkpit" with "Snakebite" It now seems to accept Snarkpit, but it wants to separate it to "Snark" and "Pit"

The spell checker must either update periodically, or learn from the times I use it. :P

Snarkpit is moving up in the world. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif">





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Posted by Orpheus on Sat May 28th at 12:38pm 2005

Suggestion/Complaint:

With the influx of so many new members, there has been an increase of score boosting in the maps section. To many new faces are scoring s**t maps highly because they are buds someplace else on another site or in a clan somewhere.

I feel it should be considered to impose a probationary period on members to be eligible to vote/score on any maps posted. Most especially when the join up date is within days/weeks of joining the snarkpit and comments uproariously on a map.

Sure, this might/could scare off a few new members but would it be any great loss since their only contribution in many cases is commenting on said map and departing?

I hate even suggestion this because it stinks of elitism, but its becoming apparent that some sort of a probationary period is necessary. I hate having to impose restrictions that should be already instilled in people.

Please consider this before discarding out of hand.





The best things in life, aren't things.



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Posted by Andrei on Sat May 28th at 10:41pm 2005

I agree entirely with Orpheus. Might I also add that there are many members with only 1 post as their entire snarkpit activity and that many of the people who join only post 1 or 2 times in the forums before disappearing.




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Posted by ReNo on Sat May 28th at 11:36pm 2005

I don't really see why thats a problem Andrei, nor what anyody could ever do about it. We can't ensure people are turning up for the long haul <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/sad.gif"> The other issue is more of a concern.




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Posted by Orpheus on Sat May 28th at 11:38pm 2005

? quoting ReNo
The other issue is more of a concern.

I agree. I do not see how we could make people return.. I do not see why someone would not, but.. *shrugs*





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Posted by Andrei on Sun May 29th at 12:02am 2005

All i'm saying is that members who are on "trial period" (until they have 100 snarkmarks or something) should have their profiles removed if they don't post anything for large periods of time. That way we won't have a 2 million member list with only 1000 users who are actually active.




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Posted by Orpheus on Sun May 29th at 12:09am 2005

? quoting Andrei
All i'm saying is that members who are on "trial period" (until they have 100 snarkmarks or something) should have their profiles removed if they don't post anything for large periods of time. That way we won't have a 2 million member list with only 1000 users who are actually active.

We tried something similar once. My number used to be "21"

Apparently its a lot of effort on Leps part so it hasn't been done again.

All we can do is accept that some will not return.

Except for the first few hundred numbers, I really do not look at membership numbers anymore. We have a lot of quality members with very high place counts.

In other words, member 2000 may be as good, or better than 150 is. (for example, I am not gonna look up who 2000 or 150 is)





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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Sun May 29th at 12:11am 2005

? quoting Andre:
All i'm saying is that members who are on "trial period" (until they have 100 snarkmarks or something) should have their profiles removed if they don't post anything for large periods of time. That way we won't have a 2 million member list with only 1000 users who are actually active.


I don't see the point of that. It's not like the members who don't show up anymore are cluttering things or getting in the way of anything. I don't think you should have to pass a certain margin of posts or SM before you're safe from becoming an "unperson."

Back to Orph's original idea. While I see your point and I agree that some crap maps are getting fairly high scores (from what I've seen during my short time here so far), what you're hoping for is the implementation of some sort of standard rating system. But I think it will be impossible to make everyone rate maps as harshly/fairly as you. I think the system works fine as long as everyone has a chance to voice their opinions. If someone rates a killbox a 10 and you rate it a 2, hopefully a person browsing the comments will see that your reasons for the low score make sense while the person who rated it a 10 is just biased/insane.

This site is welcoming because it doesn't have some sort of tiered feature system. I don't know what I would have thought about this site if I couldn't have rated anything until a month (or whatever) after my sign up.




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Posted by Orpheus on Sun May 29th at 12:16am 2005

? quoting Addicted to Morphine



This site is welcoming because it doesn't have some sort of tiered feature system. I don't know what I would have thought about this site if I couldn't have rated anything until a month (or whatever) after my sign up.

But, think how good you would have felt afterward. Milestones do have a positive effect, sometimes.

/methinks, it could be a filtration system if it was clear BEFORE you joined that you would not be permitted to bloat a score just by signing up.

Its not like it happens too often, and the ones doing it would not be missed if they didn't join because of the probation.

As I said, it stinks of elitism, but I see no way around it... Other than just permitting it to continue.

*shrugs*





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Posted by ReNo on Sun May 29th at 3:23am 2005

But if you are saying it doesn't happen that often, then why limit what legitimate new users are able to do on the site just to avoid these rare misuses?




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Posted by Orpheus on Sun May 29th at 10:20am 2005

? quoting ReNo
But if you are saying it doesn't happen that often, then why limit what legitimate new users are able to do on the site just to avoid these rare misuses?

I know.. Why do you think I have not mentioned it before, or often Duncan.

Its not too often, but it does undermine the situation by eroding the system.

*sighs*

gimme a break will'ya, I am still annoyed at the screenshot situation but have pretty much let it drop for lack of support. I hate seeing wrongs uncorrected for lengths of time. :/





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Posted by Leperous on Sun May 29th at 11:35am 2005

If you find a map that you think has been over-rated, then play it yourself and give it a poor rating if it turns out that it is rubbish. Unfortunately, as we've seen from killboxes and fy_ maps, people have different tastes, and there's not much you can do about it except offer your reasons for disliking something. I'm not going to introduce some 'trial' membership period or delay before being able to post.



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Posted by Orpheus on Sun May 29th at 11:43am 2005

Why did I have the feeling that it would come down to "my" having to put out effort to remedy this? <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/sad.gif">

Yeah, its my problem so it stands to reason but.. I was hoping. You know what? when you consider that we (all of us) could gang bang these maps and solve the issue, thats not really a good thing either. It would send out an even worse message. I was hoping to get the message across with the least amount of confrontationalism.

*shrugs*

nevermind.. in the end, I know which maps suck ass, and I am all the better for knowing it. When it comes right down to it, my record for distinguishing the two is pretty damned good.

You are right.. /me bows.





The best things in life, aren't things.



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Posted by Crono on Sun May 29th at 7:47pm 2005

If you're ever looking for some new implementation ideas:

A 'hiding' or parsing feature for the forums would be pretty cool (being able to turn it off and on in the control panel would be a good idea as well, as with any large change)

For example: You could have it parse the list of threads alphabetically by title or creator.

Date of creation is another one. Hide locked/closed/old threads.
Parse by number of replies. Hide non- ?fire? threads, or hide fire threads. It'd be a nice addition I think. Stickys should stay at the top though, I think.

Also, expanding the Search function to find user's threads, etc.

Taking that php executes for every person that visits whatever page writing some new functions wouldn't hurt performance much. I doubt it'd have more impact then refreshing one of the forums pages.

Anyway, it's just a thought.


Blame it on Microsoft, God does.



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Posted by Leperous on Sun May 29th at 9:00pm 2005

That sounds interesting, though I'd prefer to do it through cookies than the database. And yes, the site search should be better- I'll work on it over the Summer.





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Posted by Campaignjunkie on Mon May 30th at 6:32am 2005

Hey, what's the ETA on some new interviews? Someone should interview Reno or something!





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