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Posted by ReNo on Wed Apr 21st at 10:39pm 2004

I was just checking out the trailers at gametrailers.com as I do every day, when I stumbled across a game I hadn't heard of before called "Laghaim". Anyway I endured the terrible Star Wars rip off intro text scrolling away into the background, and got to some CGI sequences from the game. Then the following scene flashed by...



Look familiar? Well it sure as hell did to me and I'm sure it will to quite a few folks here after that concept art mapping contest. So I checked, and sure enough, its one hell of a similarity to this piece by Goodbrush...



I certainly hope they got his permission to play this close to his art! [addsig]



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Posted by Campaignjunkie on Wed Apr 21st at 10:54pm 2004

I'm actually using that particular image by Goodbrush for some Nightwatch work. Shame on those Star Wars people. Overall though, that Star Wars copy thing doesn't even come close to the original in terms of quality and composition. [addsig]



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Posted by Orpheus on Wed Apr 21st at 10:55pm 2004

i see similarity, but hardly copy.. i am confused [addsig]



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Posted by ReNo on Wed Apr 21st at 10:57pm 2004

Look at the beam crossing from the left to the right closest to the camera - not only is it in the exact same position and angle as in the original art, but it has other beams coming out of its left hand "bulk" in almost the exact same area as in the original also. Obviously its not identical, but there is similarity enough to make it pretty clear in my eyes that its this piece of art they used as a base. [addsig]



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Posted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Wed Apr 21st at 11:15pm 2004

I agree with Junkie, it's poorly replicated. [addsig]



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Posted by Crono on Wed Apr 21st at 11:26pm 2004

You can copy art all you want, if you change something its called apropriation and there's nothing wrong with that

Now saying if the final item looks good is another question entirly. Also, mentioning what they were 'inspired' by, meaning artist, giving credit and such, there's no grounds for it being 'wrong' or something like that. [addsig]



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Posted by Myrk- on Wed Apr 21st at 11:26pm 2004

It looks amazing, but its not a great replication of the original picture. Then again the word Concept comes to mind [addsig]



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Posted by Forceflow on Thu Apr 22nd at 3:00pm 2004

Pure rip-off.



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Posted by fraggard on Thu Apr 22nd at 3:19pm 2004

? posted by ReNo
I certainly hope they got his permission to play this close to his art!

Or at least credit him... It'd be a really cheap trick to do this and not give credit unless they have him on their staff or something.





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Posted by Wild Card on Thu Apr 22nd at 3:21pm 2004

You said this is from Star Wars right. If it is, its not from the original 3 episodes. So as long as they didnt take anything from those ones I couldnt much care. [addsig]



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Posted by ReNo on Thu Apr 22nd at 6:05pm 2004

I never said it was from star wars, bloody hell would it have been THAT hard to re-read my post if you weren't sure?

I mentioned star wars because the game this is from, Laghaim, entirely ripped of Star Wars' opening sequence with the text floating into space...or at least the trailer did. [addsig]



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Posted by Monqui on Thu Apr 22nd at 8:10pm 2004

So what you're saying then, ReNo, is that this is the hidden trailer for episode 3??? [addsig]



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Posted by Wild Card on Thu Apr 22nd at 8:12pm 2004

well the first and second were crap... 'cept for maybe the podracer race in the first one and the Yoda fight in the end of the second, other than that... Not too much compared to the original. [addsig]



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Posted by Forceflow on Thu Apr 22nd at 8:20pm 2004

? posted by Monqui
So what you're saying then, ReNo, is that this is the hidden trailer for episode 3???

No, he's just saying that someone stole some concept art from Goodbrush.





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Posted by Wild Card on Thu Apr 22nd at 8:21pm 2004

How would be "stealing" his idea the ripoff of the century? I mean, Im not that into art but its not like its something famous right?

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Posted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Thu Apr 22nd at 8:26pm 2004

Hyperbole. [addsig]



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Posted by ReNo on Thu Apr 22nd at 8:31pm 2004

I was just exaggerating WC, obviously its not the biggest rip off to have been carried out over the past 100 years. [addsig]



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Posted by Finger on Thu Apr 22nd at 8:33pm 2004

If these guys didn't have his permission, it is highly unethical, and unprofessional to attempt to make money from off of Goodbrush's concept image. Whether they altered it slightly or not, his 'concept' art successfully spawned a visual idea, which this company developed into a fully realized 3d work. Goodbrush should get due compensation, as should any artist. Famous or not.



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Posted by Wild Card on Thu Apr 22nd at 8:35pm 2004

I do agree that they took more than mearly his idea. That is wrong, but the concept of a trench with beams going across is something so vague that anyone could do.

They could have altered it. But I am sure the artist took his idea from something else himself. There looks to be elements of the homeworld concept arts in there. The style in general that is.

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Posted by Sim on Thu Apr 22nd at 8:54pm 2004

I remember that picture too from my old contest map that I didn't finish. It does look quite similar in both pictures, and I wouldn't doubt that they used it as a base. Bit out of order really, but there could be other developers doing things like this (assuming it wasn't their original creation) without anybody noticing.




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