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Posted by Cash Car Star on Tue Apr 27th at 7:37am 2004
Who says you have to dislike an occupation to make jokes about it? As far as I've seen, the ones who make the jokes the most typically are of that occupation.
But being able to take a joke unseriously isn't really something that can be taught - learned perhaps - but not taught.
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Posted by JFry on Tue Apr 27th at 9:34am 2004
I agree with Cash. Just because I think racial jokes are funny doesn't mean I'm a rascist. To me a joke poking fun at whites is just as funny as a joke making fun of blacks, hispanics, asian, etc. I'm a cracker, for the record. This really extends to all the stereotypes out there. Kinda like Shakespeare said about a rose by any other name. Its all just words.
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Posted by Gwil on Tue Apr 27th at 11:14am 2004
| ? posted by scary_jeff |
| I If somebody says people from my county are inbred, I don't take it as a personal insult. |
I had no idea you were Irish, Jeff! ![]()
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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Apr 27th at 12:17pm 2004
being able to deliver a joke is also very important..
telling jokes about race, can be funny, but not if you know that someone in the room is not partial to racial joking. same holds true about birth defects, you wouldn't do one in the presence of a paraplegic either.
in other words, you don't have to dislike someone to tell a funny joke about them, but a measure of tact is involved, else you end up looking like a prick.
but seriously, i did not read any of these replies as being hatred toward anyone, how the hell did that even become a consideration here??
i called them dumb, as in beneath my dignity and warped sense of humor, but i didn't say i hated them.. nor had anyone else..
then again, many of my jokes are so dumb, that even after explaining them few truly get the gist.
anywho's.. tact guys, its much more important.
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Posted by Cash Car Star on Tue Apr 27th at 4:40pm 2004
Ah, the gospel of comic pandering...
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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Apr 27th at 8:08pm 2004
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Ah, the gospel of comic pandering... |
*gasps*
cash, have you looked up the thesaurus to the word pander?
are you sure thats the word you meant to use?
perhaps this is not what you intended 
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Posted by Gwil on Tue Apr 27th at 8:12pm 2004
noun? i have always used it in a sense of "pandering to ones needs".. ie working and fussing over it..
kinda thing, i cant explain. but it doesnt fit any of those descriptions..
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Posted by Gwil on Tue Apr 27th at 8:15pm 2004
intr.v. pan?dered, pan?der?ing, pan?ders
- To act as a go-between or liaison in sexual intrigues; function as a procurer.
- To cater to the lower tastes and desires of others or exploit their weaknesses: ?He refused to pander to nostalgia and escapism? (New York Times).
edit.. i also found this on the pander page...
"(in England they call a pimp a ponce)" - i always used/thought of ponce as a slang term for homosexual... (usually a gay man).
or is that just the strange midlands? ![]()
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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Apr 27th at 8:51pm 2004
why do you think i brought it up?
personally i have never heard the word before, but i have been here plenty long enuff to know, that doesn't mean a damned thing, even words i use, don't always translate well, but after the last instance with "pissant" i now look up words i have not seen, or that are infrequently used, to see if the meaning has been altered since i read it last..
this word, is rather insulting, but i feel it was not how cash intended it to be..
actually, i don't know exactly what he meant to say, but i am sure it wasn't meant to be awful, or insulting to any of us..
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Posted by Gwil on Tue Apr 27th at 8:56pm 2004
I was more pointing to perhaps regional differences, or maybe even the fact dictionary.com was just plain wrong ![]()
but pander is still pander, in american as well ;P 'specially when the quote is from the NYT.. ![]()
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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Apr 27th at 8:58pm 2004
| ? posted by Gwil |
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I was more pointing to perhaps regional differences, or maybe even the fact dictionary.com was just plain wrong but pander is still pander, in american as well ;P 'specially when the quote is from the NYT.. |
well i used webster.com so if 3 sites all said basically the same thing, one has to wonder whats up...
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Posted by Cash Car Star on Tue Apr 27th at 10:59pm 2004
I searched that same site you did Orph and found a listing for pander(2) intransitive verb.
| ? quote: |
| to act as a pander; especially : to provide gratification for others' desires |
The #2 NYT definition is the word I have always used and heard used many times over (especially in comedy writing). Intriguing etymology though.
Pandering in comedy is playing it too safe, telling jokes that aren't possibly going to offend anyone at all, and being overly apologetic if they do touch a nerve. What's the point of that? Your audience could just go watch Everybody Loves Raymond. Pander also indicates a tad bit of subserviance... that you'll drift wherever the pop culture tides go. It's a bit of a shot to the integrity.
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Posted by Cash Car Star on Tue Apr 27th at 11:03pm 2004
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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Apr 27th at 11:23pm 2004
you have restored my faith cash ![]()
seriously though, i took no offense, cause its not like you to be hateful incognito, if you meant to be mean, you usually just come out and say so..
the word is still new to my tongue, and i doubt i will find many uses..
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