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Posted by scary_jeff on Thu Apr 29th at 4:23pm 2004

The skies are dynamic.

But having seen pictures of FarCry, these suddenly don't look so amazing tbh...



^^ FarCry on the next ATI graphics card.





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Posted by fraggard on Thu Apr 29th at 4:30pm 2004

I'm using a GF4 MX 440 SE which basically has nothing. But I don't intend to upgrade either. I suppose I'll miss out on the reflections and bumpmapping and whatnot. As long as I can play the game...



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Posted by Wild Card on Thu Apr 29th at 4:34pm 2004

You wont be able to play the game. Its like Deus Ex 2. If you try running it, it wont let you cause the MX dosent have pixel shaders. Unless Im missing something? [addsig]



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Posted by scary_jeff on Thu Apr 29th at 4:35pm 2004

HL2 and Doom3 will be the first two games that I won't be running at the minimum possible settings, but I'm definately waiting for the game to come out and some benchmarks to become available before upgrading. The old magazine scans from maximumPC say that HL2 will run on the original GeForce, so I imagine that in theory, it should let you run it on a GeForce4mx.



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Posted by fraggard on Thu Apr 29th at 4:36pm 2004

I'm pretty sure it'll run on a DX8 card WC.



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Posted by Myrk- on Thu Apr 29th at 4:36pm 2004

God you guys! You love HL so blindly you don't realise the truth. HL2 is dissapointing, its bog standard graphics. Released in september it would have blown the world away, but please, Stalker...

Stalker has an advanced weather engine, and it looks good, HL2 doesn't even cast shadows from { textures ffs! Look at the fences, no shadows. The graphics are just as good as Splinter Cell lol!

If you wanna see a good game I advise you try and find out more about the game Gearbox are anouncing... they released 5 screenshots of oh so goodness. When they were loading I thought they were photos!

[addsig]



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Posted by Wild Card on Thu Apr 29th at 4:37pm 2004

? posted by fraggard
I'm pretty sure it'll run on a DX8 card WC.

It might.. but the MX cards dont have pixel shaders so I dont know. The card didnt let me run DX2 sooo... unno. Time will tell.

[addsig]



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Posted by Wild Card on Thu Apr 29th at 4:39pm 2004

Myrk, HL2 isnt just about its graphics etc. Its also because it IS Half-Life 2 that some of us want it. [addsig]



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Posted by fraggard on Thu Apr 29th at 4:40pm 2004

? posted by Wild Card

It might.. but the MX cards dont have pixel shaders so I dont know. The card didnt let me run DX2 sooo... unno. Time will tell.

So? How many of the features really *need* Pixel Shaders?





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Posted by Wild Card on Thu Apr 29th at 4:43pm 2004

Not features fraggy... the game itself. Is why MX's wont run DX2. But I can only guess for HL2. So as I said, we'll have to wait t'ill the system requirements are released. As they will say what cards are not supported.

[addsig]



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Posted by scary_jeff on Thu Apr 29th at 4:45pm 2004

I agree with Myrk that the graphics are going to be just average when the game comes out, comparing it to FarCry or Stalker, but what these games definately don't do as well as HL2 is the facial animations. Valve has said these make a big difference to the gaming experience, but we will have to see how much of an impact they really have.



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Posted by Wild Card on Thu Apr 29th at 4:48pm 2004

Thats if we ever get to see

They are announcing it for October now here. Right now the game I'd like to get, had I a new video card and lots of money is Breed. Havent heard of Stalker and Farcry, well, unno, it dosent strike me.

[addsig]



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Posted by Leperous on Thu Apr 29th at 5:19pm 2004

Stalker, as in the Chernobyl game? Meh, looks a bit dull and boring.



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Posted by ReNo on Thu Apr 29th at 5:24pm 2004

Stalker looks cool, and I'm looking forward to it, but I don't see why that means you have to put down HL2. I'm actually incredibly fed up with Myrk's repetitive whining about it being some shoddy piece of crap - you have played a leaked version man, stop thinking you know all about the damn game. Sure, some scenes here don't look breathtaking, but in general it looks damn nice, and in a more realistic sense than seen in games such as Far Cry (yes its lovely, but still fake looking). Besides, if its just graphics you care about, why the hell are you still hanging around with the HL modding scene? [addsig]



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Posted by half-dude on Thu Apr 29th at 5:30pm 2004

? posted by fraggard
Whatever that new monster is, it owns.

I noticed the grave yard below, those are probibly rotting corpes being controlled by headcrabs. cool

[addsig]



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Posted by Myrk- on Thu Apr 29th at 5:33pm 2004

Reno I dis cus no one else does. Can't have a 1 sided argument, and HL2 has gotten too big for its boots I'm just trying to show people the other view, cus it seems that everyones just captivated by this bog standard game that no ones played [addsig]



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Posted by KungFuSquirrel on Thu Apr 29th at 5:50pm 2004

...which therefore makes dismissing it as "bog-standard" completely impossible. Neener. [addsig]



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Posted by Myrk- on Thu Apr 29th at 6:09pm 2004

I meant graphically speaking KFS They've lost thier thunder now :-/ A year ago I was amazed, now it just makes me say "meh"... [addsig]



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Posted by KungFuSquirrel on Thu Apr 29th at 6:17pm 2004

Here are my thoughts on the matter, as posted originally on the NS forums...

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In the right settings, the Doom3 engine looks absolutely fantastic - those settings happen to be that sleek futuristic style the game is set in. Far Cry is another great looking game, and it does a great job mixing the two types of environments while not looking horrible, which tends to happen when you try to use excessive bump/normal maps and specular highlights on semi-realistic stuff.

It's funny, you look at the comments on these shots on blues or the shack and it's full of Far Cry fanboys saying how horrible it looks and blah blah etc. etc. - you know, the usual . But these shots look absolutely fantastic to me. Not because every pixel is the best pixel ever in a game, but because the entire environment is just so wonderfully stylized and well constructed. The entire game just oozes of a style all to itself, which (graphically) is a huge draw for me. I don't want to see 18000000.3 engines that all look the same, I want to see different interpretations of graphical flair and stylistic control, and that is what HL2 offers. It's not realistic by any stretch, but it doesn't feel fake. There's some word that I can't quite grasp that describes the artistic style here, and in my mind, that is a very good thing
[addsig]



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Posted by Wild Card on Thu Apr 29th at 6:39pm 2004

Myrk, no one here is going to put down HL2 obivously.. Damnit this is a Half Life community [addsig]




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