Who said new gameplay? Look around. Not games these days offer new gameplay. They offer the same old gameplay, with different themes and weapons. But that still hasnt made them boring. FarCry is your average, run-of-the-mill FPS that sticks the player into an immersive jungle, and shoots enemy after enemy at him. This is the same old style gameplay as Doom, but its still fun.

Like Pain-Killer too. Your give new weapons and physics, but still - enemy after enemy is launched at you until their dead, and its just a different world setting; wether it be Graveyard, monestary, or even hell - its all the same gameplay in different places with upgraded firepower.

Half-Life2 doesnt offer no gameplay; no. Instead, it offers good gameplay, unlike most games these days which strive to look the best, but control, play and do everything else wrong. Its like having a pretty girlfriend - sure, shes cute - but she has no personality, evntually sooner or later your going to get bored by just having sex (because it doesnt last forever), and you'll look for someone to talk to - even if they arnt the "preitiest".

/2cents

(and if half that stuff doesnt make sense, I cant do much about it - my brain went on auto-response 2 minutes ago )

I can handle your argument any day of the week, to be honest, because your criteria for what makes a good game is ridiculous - raw graphical quality or being 'at the top of the market' is hardly the measure of a game.

I said you must like the attention because that's honestly what it seems like. You spend a ridiculous amount of time and effort insulting a game that you do not support or seem to want anything to do with (until its released, when you'll probably buy and edit with it, all the while groaning about Valve's evil lies) and then taking back your statments under any degree of pressure. In addition to the examples in this thread, you've of course gone off many a time about how HL2's engine was somehow bad because it was based off HL1's, which you stopped saying after I confronted you on it.

BEFORE: "HL2 is dissapointing"

AFTER: "I never once said I didn't like HL2"

BEFORE: "Released in september it would have blown the world away"

AFTER: "in todays market it is not near the top in any way"

And that's just from the two posts you've made larger than two or three sentences. You remind me of John Kerry.

? posted by ReNo

Azelito posted scans of this months UK PC Gamer which had an article written by a guy who went and played HL2 at Valve's offices. It had quite a lot of new screenshots in it - my flatmate has the magazine

LOL they were the same old pics Reno... Valve arn't giving anything away

And scary Jeff I'm obviously going to take the side of KingNic here... You're never going to be that close to see the facial animations in thier full glory, knowing that if you watch it too hard you will lose concentration of the surrounding environment, and are likely to be killed

Good to see someone else isn't HL2 obsessed beyond logical reason like most people here though... I'll wait till the game comes out to properly judge it for now, but all we are given atm is graphics, so graphics is what I'll critisize

And a lot of you are taking my opinions childishly, not as an oposing view, as they should be taken. Think about what I'm writing Pracitce your debating skills.

Debating skills? You can't keep a consistent point apart from that your views are immune from criticism because they are 'opposing', nor do you seem to be able to directly respond to valid argument. I'll come back here when you choose to hear my 'opposing viewpoints'.