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Posted by KoRnFlakes on Fri Sep 12th at 9:14am 2003


bleh, smede thats only certain products. Weve been through the whole pay to play thing before.

+ I dl steam, installe dit. it then updated for a full bloody hour/10 mins & then asks for what hl mods u want to use what maps u wish to keep what bra size you are...

anyway, Its taken about 1 hour 30 & its still stuck on some dodgy part. Its not even ready yet, this is uber 56k unfriendly.

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Posted by Smede on Fri Sep 12th at 9:15am 2003


Well okay, then I'll gues that I can relax... [addsig]



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Posted by KoRnFlakes on Fri Sep 12th at 9:23am 2003


GAH! GAH! GAH! GAHE GAH! GAH!

sodding bloody program. I just wasted 2 hours witht his bloody thing only for it to screw up at a later point, So I cntrl+ALT+DEL 'ed it, guess what? I HAVE TO DL EVERYTHING FROM SCRATCH AGAIN! this is absolutely f'("?&$3485073

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Posted by KoRnFlakes on Fri Sep 12th at 10:22am 2003


right so ive got steaming pile of crap installed, guess what? it doesnt even work very well. It crashes often, When you click exit steam it doesnt exit & you cant open it again. When u attempt to try to connect to a server it just says preparing to play hl...

this program is a joke tbh..

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Posted by Monqui on Fri Sep 12th at 12:54pm 2003


Off to a good start, eh korneh?



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Posted by KoRnFlakes on Fri Sep 12th at 12:56pm 2003


yeah :/ ive reinstalled it a 3rd time to try and see if itl sort my problems out ive had with it, 3rd time lucky? no unfortunately its awfull.

Im not looking forward to the point in which won gets taken down & I have to use this.

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Posted by ZeusTT4 on Fri Sep 12th at 4:05pm 2003


It seems like it's downloading things constantly... Well, really it needs the downloads but (at least whare I live) it doesn't dl anything!!!

Hey! I've just had check it and I will be ready to play CS in 575 minits!!!!!!!!!!





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Posted by KoRnFlakes on Fri Sep 12th at 7:18pm 2003


http://bender.vault-tec.de/steam.htm [addsig]



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Posted by Jinx on Fri Sep 12th at 7:29pm 2003


Converting Base Goldsrc Shared Binaries files into steam cache...complete
Converting Half-Life files into steam cache...

it's been doing the later for 4 hours. I dunno if it's 'converting' files, or downloading stuff or what, but this is f**king ridiculous. NOTHING should take this long. there is a very good chance I'm going to uninstall both steam and half-life and say goodbye to valve forever.





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Posted by KoRnFlakes on Fri Sep 12th at 7:34pm 2003


jinx, thats where mine screwed up m8. cntrl+alt+del it. reopen it & itl dl 1 more update & then finish.

btw, just searched for Jinx via add friends list. there are loads :S

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Posted by Cash Car Star on Fri Sep 12th at 7:51pm 2003


? posted by Gorbachev
Half-Life Server Watch I believe...basically it's a really nifty server program, I like it way more than say gamespy etc.

Hummm, I've been happily using All Seeing Eye for over a year now, I hope that still works.





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Posted by Jinx on Fri Sep 12th at 7:55pm 2003


check it out, Steam really IS adware:

http://www.geocities.com/lilgunblade1987/steam_infestation.gif





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Posted by Dietz on Fri Sep 12th at 7:59pm 2003


? posted by Cash Car Star
? posted by Gorbachev
Half-Life Server Watch I believe...basically it's a really nifty server program, I like it way more than say gamespy etc.

Hummm, I've been happily using All Seeing Eye for over a year now, I hope that still works.

Indeed ASE does rock... I use it for every game I own... especially good for finding quakeworld and CPMA (q3 mod) servers, which are normally very hard to find.





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Posted by Dietz on Fri Sep 12th at 8:01pm 2003


My steam experience thus far:

First:

Then once I got past that:

GG valve





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Posted by Monqui on Fri Sep 12th at 8:05pm 2003


Just heard about this on IRC-

http://www.planetmayhem.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=56

Kinda scary, if ya ask me.




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Posted by Cash Car Star on Fri Sep 12th at 8:20pm 2003


There was an interesting post by firefly part of the way down, regarding what they had written.

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Quite frankly, I?m disgusted too. I'd of thought the quality of journalism on this site would have been better than this I?ll thought out news story indicates.

For the benefit of those who have been genuinely mislead by this peace of scare mongering, all is answered on the HL2 forums:

-----Original Message-----
From: Derrick Birum
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 11:52 AM
To: Erik Johnson; Gabe Newell; John Cook
Subject: RE: gcache and its mysteries.
The cache file gets created on the client using the Windows CreateFile() command. This command will create the file but not initialize it. Due to the large size of the file, we don't bother initializing the empty data blocks in it as this can take an appreciable amount of time. On NTFS machines, files created with this method happen to have the property of appearing empty (initialized to zero) but for FAT32 machines, it shows up as whatever old data was sitting on drive in the sectors that just got allocated for the cache. The people that are reporting this behavior are actually seeing old data from their hard drives.


http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=127676#post127676 

TBH, I really don't have the technical knowledge to know which is true. Both views sound reasonable

On a side note though, Steam's been running fairly smoothly for me, although why it decided I needed to move my entire HL folder is beyond me...

EDIT: I take that back, I had the same thing happen that Jinx got.





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Posted by Edge Damodred on Fri Sep 12th at 9:00pm 2003


I've had experience in using CreateFile() and if you don't initialize the data, you will get weird s**t happening sometimes.  Hmm, I might be able to pull up the documentation on the CreateFile() command when I get on my laptop, for those that are interested in what it says and how it should be used. 

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Posted by Cash Car Star on Fri Sep 12th at 9:44pm 2003


Steam has some trouble with Go, so watch out if you're an avid Go player.





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Posted by KoRnFlakes on Fri Sep 12th at 9:51pm 2003


? posted by Cash Car Star

Steam has some trouble with Go, so watch out if you're an avid Go player.

rofl.

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Posted by 2dmin on Fri Sep 12th at 11:16pm 2003


ok i download steam (589kb) and install . . . after a few crashes and waiting for about 20 minutes for it to "update platform files" it says what mods would you like to port over to steam blah blah blah just like kornflakes. it's about halfway through that when it simply stops responding and i have to ctrl alt delete it. i reboot it and this time i get into the proper steam gui with the menu of games, servers, friends, etc. i click on games and click on counter-strike and it says "you will be ready to play counter-strike in 20 minutes" . i wait for it to download and i have 2 seconds left when steam just freezes and goes not responding. i reboot, it doesn't prompt me for anything, i go servers> and click on my nearest server and it says "cannot launch counter-strike. you don't have it yet" or something like that. I reboot my whole computer and try again, click on the server, this time it loads the counter-strike 1.6 gui but it stops there. i can't do anything, my computer lags, and then counter-strike goes not responding . . . there are no buttons like there are supposed to be down the bottom. errrrrr ... HELP?

 

EDIT: I just downloaded a seemingly newer version of steam, it was 598kb instead of 589 :S . . . i install and after a few crashes of steam it boots up and tries to update like steam did before then says it can't get to the steam network :@ . . . is steam down or something???






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