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Posted by Gwil on Wed May 12th at 8:28pm 2004


Korndawg -

http://www.tothegame.com/screenshot.asp?screens=10269

and apparently everquest2.com has just been revamped majorly

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Posted by KoRnFlakes on Thu May 13th at 7:47am 2004


? posted by Gwil

Korndawg -

http://www.tothegame.com/screenshot.asp?screens=10269

and apparently everquest2.com has just been revamped majorly

ta m8.

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Posted by Orpheus on Thu May 13th at 2:11pm 2004


did anyone here go to this E3 thing?

how did it fare?

/me drools

i really want civ 4 and fallout 3, why did you have to tell me they could come out

now i will be waiting, and the wait will be longer

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Posted by Gwil on Thu May 13th at 2:19pm 2004


Who cares about Civ, when the Pirates! series is receiving a fresh update

http://www.firaxis.com/company_showrelease.cfm?releasenum=42

If you haven't heard of it/played it before (its rather old), you need know only one thing - 'tis swashbuckingly fantastic!

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Posted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Thu May 13th at 2:22pm 2004


I thought Civ3 was disappointing. All my games were uneventful and unbalanced. [addsig]



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Posted by ReNo on Thu May 13th at 2:26pm 2004


E3 isn't over yet Orph, and unfortunately its for industry members only. Somehow others can manage to get in through contacts and such (like Juim said he had managed in the past) but for the most part you have to be in the game development / journalism industry. [addsig]



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Posted by Gwil on Thu May 13th at 2:32pm 2004


Can I just cage what difficulties y'all were playing on, for Civ 3? It seems illogical to not like it... ideally Regent/Emperor or above is the only way to play and get a decent game

Also, with the Conquests pack adding a plethora of funkiness, I'm still convinced it's one of the best yet

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Posted by Orpheus on Thu May 13th at 2:40pm 2004


? posted by Gwil

Can I just cage what difficulties y'all were playing on, for Civ 3? It seems illogical to not like it... ideally Regent/Emperor or above is the only way to play and get a decent game

Also, with the Conquests pack adding a plethora of funkiness, I'm still convinced it's one of the best yet

the addon's truly add something to this ailing game..

civ 3 sucked, by itself anyways, for all the aforementioned reasons.. the comp already cheats, i don't see how setting it on its most difficult level will remedy that..

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Posted by Gwil on Thu May 13th at 2:42pm 2004


How does it cheat? As long as you dont waste money researching science (buy it instead), and dont attack the enemy in 1/2 unit stacks, you will always have an upper hand on the enemy [addsig]



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Posted by Orpheus on Thu May 13th at 2:46pm 2004


? posted by Gwil
How does it cheat? As long as you dont waste money researching science (buy it instead), and dont attack the enemy in 1/2 unit stacks, you will always have an upper hand on the enemy

/me wonders, what version of civ 3 you own..

i lost a new battleship, a steel one to an elite wooden sailing galleon (or whatever civ has in wooden military vessels)

that scenario cannot happen..

i lost marines (yup new ones again) to an elite force of musketeers.. again, impossible scenario.

the battle encounters, were out of sync gwil.. and i for one play mostly from the peace standpoint.. i never start wars.. i usually get attacked cause of my lead position.. i am usually years in front of anyone else..

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Posted by Gwil on Thu May 13th at 3:05pm 2004


strength of numbers and experience make a lot of difference - also remember, Marines are normal infantry with the ability to attack cities via transports, nothing more

steel battleship? or steel Ironclad? ironclads are crapola is so, but i can see what you mean if it was a destroyer/battleship/aegis cruiser

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Posted by Orpheus on Thu May 13th at 3:11pm 2004


? posted by Gwil

strength of numbers and experience make a lot of difference - also remember, Marines are normal infantry with the ability to attack cities via transports, nothing more

steel battleship? or steel Ironclad? ironclads are crapola is so, but i can see what you mean if it was a destroyer/battleship/aegis cruiser

reminds gwil

i said years ahead.. it was a battleship vs. wooden something.

sighs.. gwil i played civ II for much longer than HL (actual hours invested, not total time owned) i know the in's/outs of the game.. i almost never lost at civ.. till version 3.

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Posted by Gwil on Thu May 13th at 3:20pm 2004


Theres your answer right away there is massive changes in Civ 3 - playing it as civ2 will get you nowhere (no offence), but that is the general concensus in the community..

Wonders arent as important, the combat system has had an overhaul (and i will add that in civ 2/civ 2 ToT there were massive problems with jet fighters/tanks etc being lost to spearmen - the combat system is still a little off , but a lot better than it has been. im not doubting your ability at the game Orph, i'm just pointing out some of the most common hurdles people face with this game...

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Posted by Orpheus on Thu May 13th at 4:05pm 2004


hmm, never heard of the spearman thing, but honestly, i played civ long before i had net access..

ok.. i will give it another try..

thanx gwil

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Posted by Leperous on Thu May 13th at 6:12pm 2004


Always annoyed me how privateers could rarely, even on the easiest settings, defeat a pesky trireme. They should make certain techs be undefeatable unless faced with numbers, e.g. a tank should never lose against spears/arrows, unless perhaps there are hundreds of them. Such foolishness.

Anyway, the whole Civ concept is a bit flawed and silly really- something like Alpha Centauri, where it's set in an unbreathable atmosphere and you have to build colonies, makes sense. I hope that they radically overhaul the gameplay of the next because, as fun as the earlier Civs were, I'm tired of 15 years worth of simple "factory building". There should be more of a 'sprawl' rather than discrete population centres, and the factory/movement systems should be changed, along with the military- proper armies would kick ass





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Posted by Orpheus on Thu May 13th at 6:25pm 2004


i agree, but would be content to have real sized worlds.. one where you take days to stumble upon another civ, and one that kills the unprepared more easily..

there was a reason it took so long to discover America.

also, i don't think 1000 spearmen could harm a tank.. reality would be a must..

even in the future, you will need to build the basics, i can live with being forced to do the tedious stuff civ is noted for..

i am a fan i guess.. maybe those things would bother me if i were less of one.. :/

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Posted by Leperous on Thu May 13th at 9:54pm 2004


Well, maybe not a tank- the tank wouldn't be able to kill 1000 spearmen anyway- but 1000 spearmen could probably knock down a few infantry... oh and future Civ games need more futuristic technology. I'm pissed off with there being pollution still when I'm on future tech 154980, and the lack of decent units. Civ CTP had it right with mechs and hypersonic planes...



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Posted by Gwil on Thu May 13th at 11:53pm 2004


Privateers, pfft - widely accepted as being useless and in the wrong age to even become useful

Navy isn't even an important element in Civilization - as long as you have a small, stacked fleet to defend your invasion transports, you shouldnt be wasting your shields producing worthless units ^_^ IMO, anyhow

TBH, it smacks of (no offence again) of casual unstructured play being applied to a Civ game. The Civ3 engine encourages people to take a path as a Civ, not just become a "factory builder" (Lep TM) to win an essentially worthless histographic victory.

No offence (x3) but it seems a lot of people havent read the intro piece on the Civ3 manual, and are playing Civ3 as a game - which it is, and can be played as such - but they are misinterpreting the changes, and ideas within the game as such..

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Posted by Orpheus on Fri May 14th at 12:05am 2004


well. since you were so inoffensive and all

unless i failed to say, i played civ 3. i win.. i almost always win. i just found the balance annoying.. the combat balance that is... if i am mis-interpreting this.. so be it.. but being ex-military, i don't see how.

the game was only OK.. i so hope for either..

1) a re-institution of the civ 2 value system, with civ 3 graphics, or

2) a total revamp, ignoring 2 or 3 completely..

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Posted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Fri May 14th at 12:27am 2004


The resuorce distribution sucked too. [addsig]




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