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Posted by Orpheus on Fri May 14th at 12:51am 2004

? posted by Alien_Sniper
The resuorce distribution sucked too.

you have DSL now dave, find the expansion.. it does add some interesting stuff..

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Posted by ReNo on Fri May 14th at 4:58am 2004

Well the new STALKER video is rubbish - doesn't exactly show this to be the "HL2 beater" Myrk seems to think it will be...

http://www.gametrailers.com/gt_vault/t_stalker_e3_2k4_gp.html

Wow, what "innovative" gameplay this has when compared to the standard boring HL2 gameplay shown in their new video eh

A few games that ARE looking cool however - monster hunter, silent hill 4, and killer 7...

http://www.gametrailers.com [addsig]



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Posted by KoRnFlakes on Fri May 14th at 7:53am 2004

http://media.pc.ign.com/media/670/670144/vids_1.html - I didnt expect them to have a trailer already. looks so good. [addsig]



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Posted by Hornpipe2 on Fri May 14th at 8:18am 2004

The following games look really neat:
Guildwars (PC, http://www.guildwars.com/ ) - By the three guys who recently left Blizzard after making Diablo II, Warcraft, etc. It looks to be a big Diablo-like game, but 3d and really neat. Until Friday (today?) I guess they're doing a free beta test for anyone who wants to download the small (1 meg) client and try it out.
Metroid Prime 2 (GC) - looks really neat, I'm hoping the single player will be as fun as the first, but I think the multiplayer looks too lame to see much play.
Legend of Zelda (GC) - Damn, I'm not much of a Zelda fan myself, but if it looks as good as these screenshots I'll be buying it!
Paper Mario 2 (GC) - I loved the style and setup of the first one. Hopefully this will be even cooler.
Fire Emblem (GC) - Tactical strategy games. For Gamecube. Mmmmmm.
Advance Wars (GC) - I don't quite understand this game, and the videos weren't too clear on what was going on, but it looked really fun and interesting.
WarioWare DS (DS) - Hahaha, WarioWare is great. Check it out for GBA or especially GC if you haven't played it - basically a whole lot of five second long minigames played in rapid succession.

In fact, holy s**t, the Nintendo DS looks TOTALLY FRIGGIN' AWESOME. Wireless multiplayer, a stylus and microphone, GBA compatability, two screens, Nintendo 64 (and more) quality graphics... ANIMAL CROSSING... in your hands. Wow. I'll most likely buy this system. [addsig]



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Posted by scary_jeff on Fri May 14th at 9:04am 2004

If the PSP gets hacked then it will be amazing... seems like it could be a portable divx/mp3 player for what.. ?150? Assuming somebody breaks the DRM on it, which they of course will



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Posted by Leperous on Fri May 14th at 9:46am 2004

Gwil, although I agree that it is about building a civilisation, you might notice that, er, so were the other 2 games that came before it, except this one has annoyingly handled resources, cheating bastard enemies, no post 1980-technology in the game, and poorly handled concepts of corruption and pollution, amongst other things.

I did actually like this game though, just it could/should have been better, and I hope the next version is at least an evolution (if not a revolution) where Civ3 wasn't.





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Posted by Gwil on Fri May 14th at 9:54am 2004

Pollution, is teh carp really - and I think the corruption system works fairly decently as well, at least as far as possible. It's quite a hard thing to represent by the very nature of it

Make sure you space out the forbidden palace and the palace, and build with corruption in mind..

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Posted by Leperous on Fri May 14th at 9:55am 2004

lol I did... I have been playing these games for 12 years, you know It's foolishness how there's more corruption the further away you are, that's like saying Cornwall and Scotland must be the most evil, corrupt places in the UK, while London is a shining example to us all! Plus I can't imagine in a civilised society there is much corruption which siphons off government resources...



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Posted by Gwil on Fri May 14th at 9:58am 2004

I can only conclude that "yuo r all teh mongz!", TBH

i wouldn't say corruption doesnt siphon resources, more like "misuses" them i think the idea is good, but hard to implement effectively or realistically. *shrugs*
here's an "article" or two on corruption, in Civ - if youre interested

http://www.civfanatics.com/civ3acad_corruption_c3c.shtml
http://www.civfanatics.com/civ3acad_wltkd.shtml
http://www.civfanatics.com/civ3acad_rank_corruption.shtml

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Posted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Fri May 14th at 11:33am 2004

The communication system was a bit of a balls too, I expected the computer to be far more interactive. I wanted to join forces amass armies and conquer enemy cites... but I just got ripped off trading for iron and other essential resources. Renewing the trade pacts every 20 years was riveting too.

I still enjoyed the games I had, but I wanted more after playing alpha centurai and civ2 excessively. [addsig]



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Posted by Orpheus on Fri May 14th at 11:44am 2004

*whispers to lep*

i am beginning to believe, gwil doesn't support the glitches, but... was able to incorporate them better than we did..

i always attempted to play civ in an orderly, civilized fashion. in fact, i had in hundreds of instances, computer people just appear on my map, as mine.. city after city would be dazzled by my reputation as a world leader.. it got to be expensive, cause they were always in the middle of enemy occupied territory, and i had to dump massive amounts of cash into them to upgrade them.. else i would suffer theft of technology..

anywho's.. it is my considered opinion, that gwil used the glitches to his advantage.. where i could not.

/me bows to a true civ master

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Posted by Gwil on Fri May 14th at 12:01pm 2004

*thanks Orph*

I'm yet to win by UN vote... probably my early ages annexation policy of smaller neighbours Therefore I never hold elections!

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Posted by Leperous on Sat May 15th at 12:51pm 2004

The next Settlers game looks really good too-
http://games.bigpond.com/pc/features/e3-2004/settlershot.php
Hopefully it's like the 1st/2nd versions rather than the crummy later ones





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Posted by Gwil on Sat May 15th at 1:57pm 2004

That = win, simple as The whole look and feel, particuarly the trees reminds me a lot of Black and Whites engine, which was tres beautiful And this is better

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Posted by Orpheus on Sat May 15th at 2:22pm 2004

RTS is good, but i think i prefer TBS myself..

i always feel i am the computers equal in TBS.. when i play RTS, i always feel cheated, even when the game assures you its not :/

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Posted by Juim on Sat May 15th at 2:54pm 2004

The batllefield 2 videos look way awesome, as does the UT3 engine demo. You oughtta check em out. I must say I am dissappointed with the Xbox version of Doom3. If in fact, this game is the graphics behemoth they intend, then one must wonder how much they needed to "turn off" with regaurd to graphics performance. Keeping in mind the Xbox is basically a P3 700 or so I'm told. My comp can barely hold it's own on the very high settings in Far Cry, I have to turn off AA and ASF or keep it to their lowest settings. I think I will wait for the PC versions on all the "next Gen" type games.



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Posted by ReNo on Sat May 15th at 2:57pm 2004

You'll "wait"? Surely D3 and HL2 would get their PC releases at the same time or earlier than the Xbox versions? ID/Valve have never been console developers, I can't imagine they would let their console versions come out first. [addsig]



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Posted by Juim on Sat May 15th at 2:59pm 2004

Bill Gates has powers the normal human can never hope to achieve!!!!!!

On another note, This PSP thing. Nothing more than a glorified gameboy. I don't get it. Pph!.... kids and their toys.





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Posted by KungFuSquirrel on Sat May 15th at 4:12pm 2004

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The batllefield 2 videos look way awesome, as does the UT3 engine demo. You oughtta check em out. I must say I am dissappointed with the Xbox version of Doom3. If in fact, this game is the graphics behemoth they intend, then one must wonder how much they needed to "turn off" with regaurd to graphics performance. Keeping in mind the Xbox is basically a P3 700 or so I'm told. My comp can barely hold it's own on the very high settings in Far Cry, I have to turn off AA and ASF or keep it to their lowest settings. I think I will wait for the PC versions on all the "next Gen" type games.


Carmack getting the Doom3 engine to work on a console is generally considered a sign that he has made a deal with the devil. It outpowers the XBox by far, and it has been scaled back by quite a bit. That said, for an XBox game, it still looks great.

I'll probably end up getting the XBox version to try coop, though I'll need to find a friend with another XBox to do it - damned not being able to render split-screen.

But yeah, Doom3 for PC wasn't shown at E3 because it's being finished, and now has been slated for this summer. Doom3 for XBox is still slated for fall. The major PC titles will not hit consoles first, as the major console titles will not hit PC first. [addsig]



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Posted by Orpheus on Sat May 15th at 4:37pm 2004

well, with my financial status on very shaky ground, i have to be very picky about which games i purchase *glares* quit staring, i buy each game i am truly interested in guys

anywho's, with each penny the price of fuel goes up, the likelihood of my being able to buy many games goes down.. all my hopes rest on an early release for HL2, cause... 3 months from now, i prolly won't even be able to have internet..

*sighs*

/ rant

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