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Posted by Kage_Prototype on Sat May 15th at 1:40pm 2004

The Mirror (The UK Tabloid that produced the photos) have admitted they are fake, and the commitee has fired The Mirror editor. They have also apologised for the incident. While we all knew this in the first place, it's nice to see the man responsible sacked. It's not going to make up for the bad reputation it's put on the British armed forces though. [addsig]



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Posted by Leperous on Sat May 15th at 1:41pm 2004

I don't really think this put a bad reputation on them at all, actually. Quite glad they sacked Piers Moron though, huzzah for s**t-paper-bashing!



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Posted by Kage_Prototype on Sat May 15th at 1:49pm 2004

It certainly gave terrorist groups to go after UK targets more than ever now, they probably won't even care if they're fake. [addsig]



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Posted by Andrei on Sat May 15th at 3:32pm 2004

They had to get the talibanoes started, didnt they !?!"Lets just poke the stupid talibans, they is dumb and wont fight back."

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Posted by Gav on Sat May 15th at 5:24pm 2004

The worst thing is, surely common sense dictates, revealing pictures like this (Faked or otherwise) will stir up hatred in Iraq, and hence cause the needless death of more soldiers. Why not hand them over to military police or the government so they can deal with it. (Which they would have to if media had copies of the evidence)

Personally I think this sort of media behaviour is Akin in to manslaughter.

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Posted by Orpheus on Sat May 15th at 5:38pm 2004

? posted by Gav

Personally I think this sort of media behavior is Akin in to manslaughter.

it will never be viewed as such though, case in point, the battery charger cord for a cell phone has no logical reason to be over 6 or so inches long, but it is made several feet long because?? to allow people to use it on extended conversations while driving..

this cord, contributes to the maiming and killing of people daily, because it promote longer conversations while driving..

the makers of this cord will never come to trial.

they now have an apparatus that when attached to a laptop, hangs from the steering wheel of a car, thus allowing for ease of use while.... driving the maker of this device will prolly never see the inside of a courtroom either.

they now have dual-screen DVD players, that attach to the sun visor of your automobile... exactly how is this a good thing?? the maker will prolly never go to trial either.

see my trend?? other than the car/auto association i mean?? people whom cause death through manufactured items.. be it photo's or electronics seldom get charged.

of course there are exceptions.. people assume that negligent manufacturers are at fault and sue them frequently.. but the DVD player, the cell cord and the laptop hanger are not defective, they do exactly what they were designed to do

the people who made these photo's will either never be caught, or never suffer the full penalty if caught.. the humanitarians among us will not allow it.. the same assholes who feel the death penalty is too strong a fine for murderers will get them off

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Posted by Leperous on Sat May 15th at 5:39pm 2004

"Media behaviour"? They claim that they didn't know the photos were fake and even though it was the Mirror I'm inclined to believe them; yes they should have checked the photos were authentic first with the MoD, but whether you like it or not this stuff is going on anyway, real photos or not. Would you not be as bothered if this stuff was going on but the government was covering it up?!





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Posted by Andrei on Sat May 15th at 6:16pm 2004

Just had a thought: those people who published that decapitation video indirectly raised Bush's chances to be re-elected. [addsig]



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Posted by Orpheus on Sat May 15th at 6:27pm 2004

? posted by Andrei
Just had a thought: those people who published that decapitation video indirectly raised Bush's chances to be re-elected.

i doubt it, there are to many of us who believe in cause=effect

if he had not waged this war, the guy would still be doing his yuppie stuff at home..

actually i have not followed the decapitation story very close, but it was my understanding that, his silly humanitarian stuff was what got him killed..

he should have waited to volunteer till the area was more stable... civilians do not belong there yet.. his own life style and beliefs got him killed more than anything else..

assuming, what i heard had any merit.. as i said i have not followed it very close.

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Posted by KungFuSquirrel on Sat May 15th at 6:45pm 2004

You should see the conspiracy theories on this event.

I don't buy into that sort of thing, nor do I see evidence at this point to believe that he was actually killed by US operatives (as is claimed), but there are some very interesting inconsistencies and errors that have no good explanation.

Again, I don't buy the all-out conspiracy theories, but with the timing, certain details of the video, and the timeline leading up to it, there are many questions yet to be answered. [addsig]



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Posted by fishy on Sat May 15th at 9:47pm 2004

i've not watched the vid of the beheading. its the sort of image i can live without. anyone that does watch it, i would ask, 'why? this isn't the first time an inocent man has been beheaded.' it happens all the time in some of the 'friendly'(oil rich) arab countries, and is all but ignored by the rest of the world (us). why all the fuss now?

and about some of the abuse pics being staged as anti-war propaganda. does anyone honestly believe that the pics would make several million armed arabs any less inclined to have a go? i'd say anti-war images would be more of a 'dead babies from each side in the same grave' sort of thing, not a 'look, we've got your sons/cousins/brothers testicles wired to the mains' one.





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Posted by Crono on Sun May 16th at 4:13am 2004

This situation is very mis-understood, from both sides of the looking glass.

I wonder if anyone really has a good understanding on what life is like in some of those Middle Eastern countries. And no, they're not the "s**t-hole part of this Earth" as one of my friends put it the other day.

Being half-Arab, I take some of this stuff personally. However, neither side in this 'war' is correct. The problem comes from the US being mostly an unreligious nation (taking that religion is an option). It isn't there. You're raised with it; there is no other way of thinking ... its like how we believe that the Earth is round. I'm not saying they're wrong, because no one can decide that.
But this ideal is twisted by the government (US and Arab) as well as terrorists. I guarantee you that 99.9% of 'Al Queda' doesn't want to fight. They feel that they're important since they believe they're doing God's work. These people don't have amazing spectacular lives (because of their government, mostly). This 'debate' will not be solved for many years. I'm not saying any sort of war will last that long, but even if we established a democratic government there. There will still be the men who want power causing terrorism, twisting people through religion. I don't think people have any idea how trusting people are over there (the average citizen that is).

This is a debate that is far too complicated to make a simple conclusion. There is no REAL right or wrong for either side, but for individual people on either side. [addsig]



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Posted by Kage_Prototype on Sun May 16th at 2:46pm 2004

It just keeps getting beter and better... [addsig]



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Posted by Hornpipe2 on Tue May 18th at 12:28am 2004

It sure does. http://www.holocausthumanity.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=32
http://www.prisonplanet.tv/audio/051404watson.htm



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Posted by Skeletor on Tue May 18th at 2:09am 2004

That first link brings up some amazing arguments. Definatly a must-read for anyone who has been following this story.

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Posted by Orpheus on Tue May 18th at 9:22pm 2004

am i the only person whom thinks this pic was edited??

the light source is off, she has shadow, he doesn't.. his pubic region is blurry, but her face is not ??

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Posted by Leperous on Tue May 18th at 10:17pm 2004

White plastic chair? Yellow walls? Fat terrorists? Why would he claim to have killed Berg yet worn a mask? To perhaps get the credit, and hide from Americans what he currently looks like, perhaps? I'm sure there is a lot more going on than we know, but this guy's arguements are a bit lame.

And Orph, that pic looks like it's been simply brightened or something, and blurry bits applied by the media/whoever for decency, why should they cover her face too?





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Posted by Bruce on Tue May 18th at 10:22pm 2004

OMG FAT TERRORISTS!!!!!!1111111
THIS CANT BE TRUE!!!!11111 ITS FAKE!1!1!1!1!1!




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