yak has been a staunch supporter of civ II

if they replace what they take out with equally beneficial tasks, i see no issues.. there is more to civ than pollution and waste..etc.

i only hope it is real time MP this time..

i would love to play a game with my fellow pitters, but turn based *vomits*

*rubs hands in anticipation of new Civ*

boo. I want a more complex game that covers more ideas and allows for more combat options, not an even more dumbed down version of Civ2. A few things I'd love to see:

-Better economic system where trade routes matter. Many ancient civilizations grew rich because of location and control of trade routes, and I'd like to have the ability to tax caravans passing through my country, for example.

-Smarter AI that doesn't pull bulls**t on you constantly and is tough yet realistic. The combat AI in Civ3 was worthless, the combat AI in AC couldn't handle the available options, and the combat AI in Civ2 was simple but it made better decisions than Civ3's. I want more diplomatic options that actually do something, and I want proper behavior between civs. It always pissed me off in AC when one faction could nuke me and if I nuked in retaliation I'd lose all my allies and they'd join that faction, all because they don't support the use of nukes...retarded.

-Immigration, racial strife. Civ3 sorta had this, but it didn't go far enough. I want to see populations from other civs joining me if I'm doing better. I want to be able to pull a Germany and claim part of Czechoslovakia just because my people lived there. I want to see race relations reflected in the game with all its positives and negatives. I'm certain this'll never happen...

-Minor civilizations. I would love it that after a certain amount of time empty land that hasn't been claimed by anyone would eventually be taken over by minor groups, with their own towns, improvements, and people. This would remove the stupid expansionary behavior of Civ3 and replace it with a more historically accurate version, where you could try to work with the minor groups, buy them out, destroy them, trade with them, backstab them, whatever. Ok, so I want to secretly recreate Colonization within the larger game of Civ4...is that so wrong?

Basically I want to recreate history and have many more options to achieve my tactical and strategic goals. I want the game to move beyond the simplicity of earlier games and open up a whole new world of possibilities, or something. That's why Colonization is one of my favorite games. It's got more complicated land, population, and diplomatic aspects to it.

Hey, I wasn't out to nuke the world, but if some upstart thinks that they can get away with nuking one of my big cities they'd be wrong. If I remember correctly I completely removed the continent of that particular faction with multiple quantum planet busters. Satisfying retribution

I'd say that AC was the best of the lot if it weren't for the fact that it is so easily broken on even the hardest levels. The combat was tough but fun, the enemies had brains, the different situations caused by the settings was cool... however I could always win by having a dominant economy with solar collectors everywhere and by designing and building attack cars with the best guns and armor. 10-20 of those can wipe out a faction with a larger, equally advanced army since they'll throw away many of their troops because they aren't armored. Throw air power into the mix and its time for a victory dance.

Personally, I do not think you can improve the 2D windows much more than they already have so I am not to disappointed. However, if it plays as poorly as Civ III I will be royally burned. I want a bit more of the old Civ II back.

Also, I do not want them to remove to many of the nuisance parts. You always knew you screwed the dog when a big ol nasty pollution area showed up " SRC="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif">