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Posted by $loth on Fri Jun 25th at 9:31pm 2004

? posted by fishy

i know i'd have been happy playing it on a 15 inch monitor with a gforce4.

He hem, that is my specs

Athlon xp 2500
GF4 MX440 64meg
512 PC2700 DDR
Asus a7v8x-x Mobo

and a 15inch crt monitor. should do for HL2

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Posted by scary_jeff on Fri Jun 25th at 10:50pm 2004

I would rather have my old PC with a decent monitor than my new one with a 15 inch CRT... You can pick up a really good 17" for like... ?120 these days.



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Posted by Orpheus on Fri Jun 25th at 11:04pm 2004

? posted by scary_jeff
I would rather have my old PC with a decent monitor than my new one with a 15 inch CRT... You can pick up a really good 17" for like... ?120 these days.

look around, 17" monitors are almost considered old.. you can get them for 1/2 of what you think they are worth..

$50-$65 is an average price now. (whatever that converts to in your currancy)

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Posted by scary_jeff on Sat Jun 26th at 12:32am 2004

$50 is not the average price for a 17" decent monitor. Pricewatch is down but newegg has them all around the $100-$170. Decent = will do 1600*1200*75Hz.



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Posted by Orpheus on Sat Jun 26th at 12:45am 2004

jeff, i have a decent video card, and a damned good monitor, and mine max's out at 1280x1024 at 95hz, so how do you figure decent, exceeds my maximum?

maybe my dollars are a bit overzealous, but 17" monitors are exceedingly common around here, and this is just arkansas.. in fact, i bought a 17" Compaq monitor 3 weeks ago for only 10 dollars.. granted, the people didn't realize what it was, but still being older, they thought they did alright, and i didn't enlighten them a bit

in fact, i am sitting here ATM on a cheapo computer, with an even cheaper monitor, and it runs 1280x1024 at 85hz with an antique voodoo banshee..

if you feel decent exceeds my maximums, i damned sure would love to hear what "top of the line" monitors can achieve..

and pricewatch is never down..

[edit] 17 inch monitors

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Posted by SumhObo on Sat Jun 26th at 1:48am 2004

? posted by scary_jeff
Same here.. I bought new CPU/RAM, but am waiting for the game to be out before getting the graphics card. I have needed an upgrade for a couple of years anyway, and have been able to play a few decent games like far cry and UT2K4 on my old graphics card.

Err... if you can play a game like Far Cry with decent graphics, I'm pretty sure that you won't have to upgrade for HL2. Far Cry really taxed my system in some areas.

Specs: XP 2800+ (UCed due to cooling issues), 9500 Pro, 512 Mb RAM.

Plus, most of the people I know have 17-inch CRTs or LCDs, maxres 1600x1200 on the CRTs. Strangely, those who don't upgrade often have 19" CRTs...





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Posted by scary_jeff on Sat Jun 26th at 2:08am 2004

I have a GeForce2 GTS. Ran Far Cry smoothly at 800*600*32, but obviously I didn't get the nice looking water.

Orph, I think we were looking at different things. I didn't mean to call you a liar, I'm sure you can get a 17" monitor for $60. The ones I'm looking at are flat screen 1600*1200*75... I say that because with the newest generation graphics card, you will be playing most current games at 1600*1200.

The monitor is just one area where I think you should splash out - a good monitor will last you through several computers, and has 5 year 24-hour swap out. What's the point of having doom 3 graphics if you are watching them on a nowhere-near-flat 15" monitor?

I also think CRTs are better than LCDs for most people. The only advantage of LCD is portability and you save 8 inches of desk space - the disadvantages are that you pay four times as much, you get a much worse response time, much worse viewing angle, lower brightness, and you only get one resolution that gives a sharp image (or the half/double resolutions, but they are normally undesirable), which isn't very good when you are trying to set your favorite game up to run smoothly whilst looking as good as possible.

Oops, that wasn't meant to be a monitor rant. Sorry



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Posted by m0p on Sat Jun 26th at 2:16am 2004

I would put up with minimum settings to play HL2 on a old pc, but I would prefer to play it on my lovely x800 pro.

Specs:

  • P4EE 3.4 (@ 4.5GhZ Prometia MAch II)
  • Asus P4C800-E
  • 2gb OCZ PC4200 EL
  • ATi X800 Pro




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Posted by Crono on Sat Jun 26th at 2:19am 2004

No, you're right, Jeff.

LCD/TFTs are inheritably slow.
If you're a gamer a CRT is what you want.
The bigger the better.

By the way, most 'LCD' monitors have TFT stuff, so they don't have the issue of being viewed from the side. It looks the same, just not as bright. [addsig]



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Posted by Orpheus on Sat Jun 26th at 2:28am 2004

so jeffery, you are saying my monitor is not quite so piece of s**t

i apologize, i honestly thought we were discussing CRTs.. i unfortunately, cannot afford a tft, or an lcd..

but i will have a 19" monitor before HL2 arrives.. that much is a certainty

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Posted by $loth on Sat Jun 26th at 6:43am 2004

I would not buy a LCD/TFT monitor right now, there is new technology which makes views 10x sharper and is way cheaper than current tft's. Its a special type of liquid crystal which is called Biaxial Nematic Liquid Crystal.

[Edit] my 15 crt cost ?15/ ~$20-$22

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Posted by siron on Sat Jun 26th at 6:44am 2004

kings quest 1 - 7 took up a good portion of my childhood. and montazumas revenge, anyone remember that?



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Posted by $loth on Sat Jun 26th at 6:47am 2004

? posted by siron
kings quest 1 - 7 took up a good portion of my childhood. and montazumas revenge, anyone remember that?

I was probably still a minor sibling at that time.

ahhhh those were the days

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Posted by Crono on Sat Jun 26th at 6:47am 2004

Orph, a TFT is an LCD. TFT isn't a type of monitor, but more of a technique.

In other words a Thin Film Transistor is a technique for creating a Liquid Crystal Display appear smoothly and at higher resolutions (and it gets rid of the funny angle invert crap)

Also, at times its great, since there's no glass light doesn't shine off of the screen

But .... yeah ... if you're a gamer/mapper, whatever. Don't get a flat panel of any kind ... unless its a plasma screen ~drool~ [addsig]



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 Re: Sierra, my love
Posted by Jinx on Sat Jun 26th at 7:27am 2004

? posted by Gorbachev
Well according to EBGames it's September 9th...and seeing as they are a large retailer and are reliable in their sources I'd go with their estimate seeing as I haven't heard anything about a June date from anywhere but this little box.

Never trust retailers' release dates. Some asshat at Gamestop was SWEARING to me last fall that HL2 would be out Nov 12th or some s**t, I wanted to smack the idiot. They will tell you anything to get you go do their pre-buy stuff. Hell, they'll sell you Duke Nukem Forever if you ask I bet

That being said, I think HL2 is finally on track, hopefully we'll get it early this Fall. I'd just as soon they take a little longer, I'll need a month or so to digest DOOM 3 anyway.






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