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Posted by Kage_Prototype on Mon Jul 12th at 4:07am 2004

Yikes

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A senior House Democratic lawmaker was skeptical on Sunday of a Bush administration idea to obtain the authority to delay the November presidential election in case of an attack by al Qaeda.

U.S. counterterrorism officials are looking at an emergency proposal on the legal steps needed to postpone the presidential election in case of such an attack, Newsweek reported on Sunday.

"I think it's excessive based on what we know," said Rep. Jane Harman of California, the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, in a interview on CNN's "Late Edition."

Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge warned last week that Osama bin Laden (news - web sites)'s al Qaeda network want to attack within the United States to try to disrupt the election.

Harman said Ridge's threat warning "was a bust" because it was based on old information.

Newsweek cited unnamed sources who told it that the Department of Homeland Security asked the Justice Department (news - web sites) last week to review what legal steps would be needed to delay the vote if an attack occurred on the day before or on election day.

The department was asked to review a letter from DeForest Soaries, chairman of the new U.S. Election Assistance Commission, in which he asked Ridge to ask Congress for the power to put off the election in the event of an attack, Newsweek reported in its issue out on Monday.

The commission was created in 2002 to provide funds to states to replace punch card voting systems and provide other assistance in conducting federal elections.

In his letter, Soaries wrote that while New York's Board of Elections suspended primary elections in New York on the day of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, "the federal government has no agency that has the statutory authority to cancel and reschedule a federal election."

Homeland Security Department spokesman Brian Rochrkasse told the magazine the agency is reviewing the matter "to determine what steps need to be taken to secure the election."

Republican Rep. Christopher Cox of California, who chairs the House Homeland Security Committee, told CNN that the idea of legislation allowing the election to be postponed was similar to what had already been looked at in terms of how to respond to an attack on Congress.

"These are doomsday scenarios. Nobody expects that they're going to happen," he said. "But we're preparing for all these contingencies now."
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Posted by Biological Component on Mon Jul 12th at 4:15am 2004

[edit] oh. [/edit]

Thankyou, Monqui [addsig]



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Posted by Monqui on Mon Jul 12th at 4:16am 2004

It's short for Representative in that case, not republican. [addsig]



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Posted by Cassius on Mon Jul 12th at 5:46am 2004

I have to admit that even to me the administration's strategy seems more and more like a joke every time I hear something like this.



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Posted by SumhObo on Mon Jul 12th at 6:50am 2004

I don't know what you people in the US hear, but out here, Bush is portrayed as somewhat of an idiot, whereas Mike Moore is portrayed as an angry genius. Guess who most people listen to?
Cant say I exactly like Bush's policies myself, from what I have heard... but then again, its so easy to buy a campaign in the USA.




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Posted by Ferret on Mon Jul 12th at 7:00am 2004

moore is a dumbass who twists words to gain profit. Nothing more.



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Posted by $loth on Mon Jul 12th at 7:10am 2004

LOL! Moore is right, in his book, he says that no WoMD have been found, which is correct, i cannot see how this is twisting words. IMHO there is no solid ground for going to war with iraq, but, there is still some belief in me that Saddam huissain is a twisted lil bas*ard.

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Posted by Biological Component on Mon Jul 12th at 7:27am 2004

Weapons of mass destruction were most certainly in Iraq. Undetonated nerve gas bombs have been found there. We have also seen them used there. To say that none have been found is just plain ignorant. [addsig]



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Posted by Hugh on Mon Jul 12th at 7:29am 2004

$loth, just because no major stockpiles have been found yet doesn't mean they don't exist. Iraq's a desert, it wouldn't take a whole lot to dig a huge pit of sand and dump whatever in there. I doubt he used his entire stockpile on the Iranians. Also, please note how the delay is only in case there is an attack, not suspicion of one. AND it's spelled Hussein to the media, Husayn to the government... who knows.



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Posted by Yak_Fighter on Mon Jul 12th at 7:30am 2004

Its an attempt to discourage a repeat of the terrorist attacks in Spain which were successful in affecting the outcome of the election held three days later.

Oh wait, I'm sorry, its obviously a conspiracy for Bush to declare himself president for life.





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Posted by Forceflow on Mon Jul 12th at 7:37am 2004

I hope he doesn't get re-elected.

(i know I made a link, but firefox + SP screws things up ... in the other thread linking doesnt work, appearantly ...)
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Posted by Campaignjunkie on Mon Jul 12th at 7:39am 2004

? posted by Ferret
moore is a dumbass who twists words to gain profit. Nothing more.

He doesn't care about profit (as much as most filmmakers anyway), since he publically spoke about how he's okay with F911 being downloaded. His "documentary" isn't important in the way that all of it's facts are absolutely true (he does bend them to prove his point, yes) but in the way that it appeals to a mass audience (it's funny) and that it provokes thought within America. The government needs to be constantly questioned in order to be kept more efficient, and I don't think that takes place too much in an aura of fear and terrorism. To me, patriotism isn't waving a paper flag to support our government; it's the active caring about the welfare of the principles of our country (and if that causes dissent, so be it) And that, to me, makes Moore quite possibly the most patriotic person in our time. But hey, what do I know?

"Dissent is the highest form of patriotism."
- Thomas Jefferson

But anyway. This postponing of the election sounds like utter bulls**t to me.

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Posted by Hugh on Mon Jul 12th at 7:47am 2004

He doesn't care if people download it considering it's already made him $80 million.



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Posted by Campaignjunkie on Mon Jul 12th at 7:49am 2004

? posted by Hugh
He doesn't care if people download it considering it's already made him $80 million.

If he was really a money-hungry savage though, he wouldn't stop at just $80 million.

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Posted by Hugh on Mon Jul 12th at 8:02am 2004

... it's not like the movie's magically creating money, the moviegoers go see it. And is he stopping, no way, he's going to make more movies since he's a filmmaker. I'm not saying he's a "money-hungry savage," simply that he does a lot of this for esteem + wealth. In my opinion.



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Posted by Campaignjunkie on Mon Jul 12th at 8:11am 2004

Hell, who wouldn't feel good about winning the Cannes film festival? But there's easier and considerably less risky ways to make similar amounts of money - he's doing it also because of his principles, I think. But hey, if it comes with money, why not? [addsig]



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Posted by Hugh on Mon Jul 12th at 8:14am 2004

Agreed, bank robbery on a global scale isn't nearly as risky as making a film. Carry on.



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Posted by Campaignjunkie on Mon Jul 12th at 8:17am 2004

Well, you know, corporate fraud. Free oil contracts in Iraq. The usual things. And hey, bank robbery could be considered less risky than directly attacking the ethics of a world superpower. [addsig]



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Posted by Hugh on Mon Jul 12th at 8:19am 2004

If he wasn't already famous and would thus be 'missed.'



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Posted by Campaignjunkie on Mon Jul 12th at 8:20am 2004

Well, with the way the government is reacting, I don't think he's exactly famous - more like notorious. [addsig]




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