When people start thinking that our own goverment plans attacks on us and starts yelling that people lose votes simply because of the fact his BROTHER IS A GOVERNOR OFTHAT STATE, is the point in which I exit the most retarded conversation ever.

Congratulations. You're a parrot! Orph's opinion, quite respectably, references personal experience. Yours comes straight out of a liberal's unfortunate recording of his rantings on paper. But hey, why take a stance when Michael Moore can do it for you?

My comments:

Michael Moore is possibly broken into a tier of narcissism not even I could even begin to contemplate and I will sock him in the face if I ever see him. Saddam getting what he deserves is a good thing, no question, you pacifist bums. People dying in Iraq for any unfounded or unjust reason is inexcusable. Kerry will win the next election. Oil isn't just for cars, the modern world is running on it. The electoral college is not an intricate device crafted to sabotage your rights.

I believe that Bush is at least decent as a President, especially given 9/11, though I will not allow my conservativism to blind me to what he's done wrong. Calling him an idiot because he falters during speeches and Fahrenheit 9/11 played an orchestra of banjoes in the background whenever they pictured him is hardly valid criticism. Here's what I see Juim: a guy spouting asinine conspiracy theories and speculation about another man who he will never meet or treat with an ounce of seriousness.

Trust me, they do, because everybody needs a fool, and unfortunately Bush has become America's. Oh, and with your first sentence you proved you have zero credibility.

Hey, at least you don't have it as bad as me - as of our last debate, Lep still thinks my name is Cassisus.

Everyone makes mistakes .

Apart from me, i'm perfect

SH, if they are going to raise costs of uni courses, they could at least give you a vote. That way, it makes things more fair.

zero credibility?

because I spoke the truth?. He is an idiot. Have you ever seen him speak publicly without a preplanned speach? Have you researched his history, both personally and professionally?

I often get the feeling that he is not actually commander in chief, more of a puppet rather. He clearly does not have the mental wherewithall to perform proficiently in this highest of political positions. It's either that, or more like Peter Sellers in "Being there". You should watch it. It's an extreme example remind you, but an apt one. Also, can you give me at least one instance where he has dealt with any situation either nationally, or internationally in a manner seeming wise and just, or even effective? Everything he touches turns to stone.

Finally, the "staging his own terrorist" statement was no more than an attempt at comedy. Lighten up please.

My thread , btw, was not meant to infer that I am a Michael Moore fan by any means. I find him to be alittle too broad with the sword of judgement, and filled with hot air most of the time(I tend to be a bit judgemental myself with regard to Bush Jr., hehehe). He clings to issues of merrit, but often falls short of saying anything good or important due to his zealous approach.

So forgive the curt nature of my original post, it was not meant to inflame.

Oh, and cassius, speaking of credibility, hows about punching another human being in the face because you disagree with his views?. Seems a trifle like a double standard to me.

depending on the subject matter involved, i would do it in a heartbeat. force doesn't often resolve an issue, but it will definitely end it. i have no qualms what so ever for putting someone on their ass for the right reasons.

some, not all but some of todays biggest problems stem from the simple fact that people believe they can say almost anything in the name of freedom of speech.. WRONG.. you cannot willfully hurt someone premeditated.. calling a black person an "N" is grounds for an ass whipping if i am there to hear it.. same holds true for many other equally abhorrent comments. (stop looking at me like that, gay issues don't count or at least, i won't fight over it, subject is to petty for bruised knuckles)

anywhos, i am betting none of this is relevant to a political debate, simply cause it is not supposed to get personal enuff to warrant physical violence.. sadly that is a rule that seem destined to be broken more often than not.

would i hit someone for their political stance, ?? nah. life's to short to worry about such small issues.

I speak as an educated person who hasn't finished high school, my friend.