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Posted by KoRnFlakes on Tue Sep 16th at 4:13pm 2003


umm, I dont have any pci cards in the pci slots at all - that erroring PCI card doesnt exist as far as im concerned but the pc wants it installed all the time as if its detecting it.

Also, some1 please explain the buses to me & why 2 of them have "?" on them.

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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Sep 16th at 4:28pm 2003


click on it>properties>remove from all profiles or disable

 

should do ya.. or you could always try removing it..

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Posted by Monqui on Tue Sep 16th at 4:39pm 2003


I'd just uninstall it through there, and if it comes back, THEN worry. [addsig]



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Posted by Myrk- on Tue Sep 16th at 4:50pm 2003


? posted by KoRnFlakes

...but the pc wants it installed all the time as if its detecting it.

That would imply it does keep coming back... And Kornflakes your a bad lyer, you must have something in the PCI slots, how do you connect to the internet?! VIA YOUR MOUSE PORT?!

As for the ? signs I believe that windows not sure if the driver its using is correct maybe? Get the latest drivers.

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Posted by Bruce on Tue Sep 16th at 5:34pm 2003


How about connecting to the internet via your USB port. Huh, ever thought about that!?



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Posted by Myrk- on Tue Sep 16th at 5:41pm 2003


Only fewls and horses get exterior modems....

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Posted by KoRnFlakes on Tue Sep 16th at 5:43pm 2003


? posted by Myrk-

Only fewls and horses get exterior modems....

your obviously the better lyer
got a diamond supra external. bloody good modem.

+ il try removing it again in a sec. Can anyone explain the buses though

Edit: nvm, had it all explained.

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Posted by Monqui on Tue Sep 16th at 8:22pm 2003


External modems are, for the most part, faster than PCI ones. Don't remember exactly why, but they are. Plus they're very convenient fo porting from one PC to another in the house. [addsig]



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Posted by Cash Car Star on Tue Sep 16th at 8:29pm 2003


Perhaps they stay cooler?



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Posted by KoRnFlakes on Tue Sep 16th at 8:45pm 2003


they run by themselves, Rather than using your pc processor to do some of the work & the processor is poor at it afaik. [addsig]



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Posted by Monqui on Tue Sep 16th at 9:21pm 2003


I think thats it... something to do with what rescources its pulling from.. [addsig]



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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Sep 16th at 9:33pm 2003


externals "tend" to run faster, the reasons may be them working under their own steam, but in my limited experience with modems, your connection is 100% dependant on your phone lines quietness..

now this seems to be a localized phenomenon, but in arkansas, you can request phone line conditioning... no one i have talked to outside arkansas seems able to acquire this vital service.. it in essence quiets the external buzz that is present in all phone lines..

you wanna test it in a rudimentary way, pick up the receiver and dial a single number... listen to the buzz in the phones receiver, more noise, less connection speed..

i managed to connect at 5.3 for over a year, when most fail to achieve 4.6, many at the 3.2 range..

i would suggest getting a service person to check the noise level in your lines.. and insist the address the issue..

BTW all my modems have been internal, and 5.3 is the maximum legal attainable limit one can expect in arkansas with this service..

5.3 on a 5.6 modem is considered optimal..

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Posted by Cash Car Star on Tue Sep 16th at 11:19pm 2003


? posted by Orpheus

and incest the address the issue..

Really, who'd have thought Arkansas?





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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Sep 16th at 11:58pm 2003


? posted by Cash Car Star
? posted by Orpheus

and incest the address the issue..

Really, who'd have thought Arkansas?

gotta love those typo's

you know, it slipped past the spell checker too... to bad its a legit word

 

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Posted by Myrk- on Wed Sep 17th at 12:05am 2003


Yes, typos, thats what they call it [addsig]



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Posted by tom on Wed Sep 17th at 6:25pm 2003


5.6 what orph?



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Posted by Orpheus on Wed Sep 17th at 6:40pm 2003


? posted by tom
5.6 what orph?

a 56k modem, is supposed to theoretically connect at 5.6  ...

 

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Posted by Monqui on Wed Sep 17th at 8:04pm 2003


No... a 56k modem transfers data at about 56000 b/s (more like 57600). This means it transfers that many bits per second. However, normal DL speed is measured in kB/s, or bytes per second. There are 8 bits in a byte, so a little simple mathematics reveal that the MAXIMUM possible you can DL at is about 7 kB/s (its not exact.... this is because one "k" is comprised of 1024, not an even 1000). Thats the idealogical best that you should be able to achieve on a 56k modem. It never happens due to things like packet loss, distance issues, and overall phone-line quality. [addsig]



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Posted by Orpheus on Wed Sep 17th at 8:44pm 2003


 

? posted by Orpheus
? posted by tom
5.6 what orph?

a 56k modem, is supposed to theoretically connect at 5.6  ...

 

 

? posted by Monqui
No... a 56k modem transfers data at about 56000 b/s (more like 57600). This means it transfers that many bits per second. However, normal DL speed is measured in kB/s, or bytes per second. There are 8 bits in a byte, so a little simple mathematics reveal that the MAXIMUM possible you can DL at is about 7 kB/s (its not exact.... this is because one "k" is comprised of 1024, not an even 1000). Thats the idealogical best that you should be able to achieve on a 56k modem. It never happens due to things like packet loss, distance issues, and overall phone-line quality.

/me compares my responce to yours....

which do you think tom will understand more

your answer is no doubt the correct one, but sometimes, discretion is better

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Posted by Cash Car Star on Wed Sep 17th at 8:44pm 2003


Quite honestly, I think it's rather hilarious that the two measures of bandwith are used. Someone wasn't following the KISS principle when they developed modems.




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