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Posted by Orpheus on Mon Oct 4th at 8:51pm 2004

isn't this along the same lines of "if someone farts in the woods and no one is there to smell it, did it have an odor?" or was it trees i can never get that one right.. [addsig]



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Posted by Tracer Bullet on Mon Oct 4th at 9:27pm 2004

Sort of. The difference is that Schrodinger's Cat and the coin toss examples are linked to totaly random events. The whole "if a tree falls in a forest..." train of though doesn't count because nowhere is there random chance involved. You have stated that the tree falls, the direct physical outcome is a sound, and there is no way around it. The example doesn't hold up. There is no "superposition". Then again, I don't know much about the physics of farts... maybe that one works



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Posted by Leperous on Mon Oct 4th at 9:55pm 2004

Schrodinger's cat is more linked into the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics, which is about how it's meant to be our consciousness which determines reality, and how it has to be us (as observers) which decide if the cat if dead or not. It's sort of the same as that analogy, in that they're both saying that a person has to be there for there for either to exist... though I think Schrodinger's cat is large enough for spontaneous quantum reduction to occur, i.e. it doesn't actually happen in real life





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Posted by Gwil on Mon Oct 4th at 10:03pm 2004

? quote:

Schrodinger's cat is more linked into the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics, which is about how it's meant to be our consciousness which determines reality, and how it has to be us (as observers) which decide if the cat if dead or not. It's sort of the same as that analogy, in that they're both saying that a person has to be there for there for either to exist... though I think Schrodinger's cat is large enough for spontaneous quantum reduction to occur, i.e. it doesn't actually happen in real life



What he said.


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Posted by Orpheus on Mon Oct 4th at 10:19pm 2004

? posted by Gwil
What he said.
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Posted by Tracer Bullet on Mon Oct 4th at 10:23pm 2004

? posted by Leperous

though I think Schrodinger's cat is large enough for spontaneous quantum reduction to occur, i.e. it doesn't actually happen in real life

Obveously.





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Posted by OtZman on Mon Oct 4th at 11:09pm 2004

lol, we're sure offtopic now ^_^. But these bizarre things are kinda interesting, even though I dont understand a thing

http://www.phobe.com/s_cat/s_cat.html

*tries to find a cat smiley*

a monkey'll do
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Posted by Orpheus on Mon Oct 4th at 11:26pm 2004

contrary to what i may lead you to believe, the cat lives/dies theory is not unheard of to me.. i just found it only vaguely interesting when i heard it as a boy, and even less now.. i would be far more inclined to discuss the "if a tree fell" theory, or even the "do bears s**t in the woods" one.

even as a child, it disturbed me deeply to contemplate any theory where something had to die to prove it out.. it reminded me of a discussion we had in high school.. the topic was, "if you knew someone was going to commit suicide, what would you do to prevent it?" sadly i came to the conclusion that, those who want to.. succeed, those who don't succeed, only wanted attention.. IMO, if you could convince someone just how long dead lasts, that would be deterrent enough to save any worth saving..

as i said, i hated theories that involved killing something

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Posted by mazemaster on Tue Oct 5th at 12:15am 2004

The cat living or dying has nothing to do with the theory. It's just one example of it. Thats like saying you hate the theory of gravity because if someone jumped off a building they would accelerate downwards to their death. [addsig]



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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Oct 5th at 12:33am 2004

? posted by mazemaster
The cat living or dying has nothing to do with the theory. It's just one example of it. Thats like saying you hate the theory of gravity because if someone jumped off a building they would accelerate downwards to their death.

people have jumped without dying maze..

if i misinterpreted the concept, its only because it has no interest for me to do otherwise..

wouldn't be the first time, sadly i feel it won't be the last.

i apologize to anyone who understands the theory and me ruining it for them :/

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Posted by Hugh on Tue Oct 5th at 12:42am 2004

? posted by Orpheus
? posted by mazemaster
The cat living or dying has nothing to do with the theory. It's just one example of it. Thats like saying you hate the theory of gravity because if someone jumped off a building they would accelerate downwards to their death.

people have jumped without dying maze..

That's what they want you to believe. They being the pro-business bulldogs of the evil corporate American empire, of course. I mean, who else would it be, the... anti-antacid cohorts of wholesome female booty?!?! Of course not! So let's be serious.

And that just about sums up this thread to my mind, most likely because I am a... erm... intellectual inferiorite.





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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Oct 5th at 12:49am 2004

i think, one of us needs a lobotomy hugh

you make me laugh so hard sometimes

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Posted by Forceflow on Wed Oct 6th at 8:53pm 2004

let's get back on topic ... anybody in for a training/war this weekend ? My trigger finger is getting itchy !
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Posted by Tracer Bullet on Wed Oct 6th at 10:31pm 2004

Sounds fun to me.

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Posted by Agent Smith on Thu Oct 7th at 6:47am 2004

Ok then, we'll do the same times/days as I worked out before, its now just a matter of picking a server. G.Ballblue had a good idea of picking an empty server, if someone could suggest one, as I don't have a clue when it comes to Europe/US servers.





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Posted by Forceflow on Thu Oct 7th at 2:57pm 2004

We'll just find one when we've gathered up in the snarkpit channel. What day and time (GMT) would suit you guys best ?
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Posted by Agent Smith on Thu Oct 7th at 2:59pm 2004

It's already done. Of course if this doesn't suit a lot of people, we can work something else out.

? posted by Agent Smith

Ok, I've done some rough calculations, and assuming we're going to play on the weekend, that being friday night/saturday/sunday, If the people in the US start playing at around 3pm on saturday (GMT -8.00), the people in Europe play at around 11pm on saturday (GMT), and the people in Australia play at around 9am on sunday (GMT +10.00), we should all be on at the same time.

I'm willing to get up at 9am on sunday to try this out. I don't know how this works for everyone else.





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Posted by ReNo on Thu Oct 7th at 3:53pm 2004

It might benefit more people to push the time onward an hour or so. I can't remember exactly but I think its just me and Gwil from the UK at the last list, and I think we would probably prefer something like 1am to 11pm on a saturday night. It would also be good for the Australian's having a bit of a lie in, and 3pm or 5pm makes little difference I'd think to the US folks.

Who else is going to be playing CS:S from tonight though?
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Posted by Agent Smith on Thu Oct 7th at 9:10pm 2004

Thats fine me with Reno, I wasn't sure how late you or Gwil be willing to do this. It suits me fine.

I'd love to be playing CS: Source tonight, but unfortanetly my copy of CS: CZ is about 8 months late, courtesy of Vivendi.





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Posted by Gwil on Thu Oct 7th at 10:02pm 2004

I'd also love to be playing CS:S tonight, but my old old PC just wouldn't have it. Haven't played a new game for years

But yeah, I can do 11pm right up to about 3am (finish at that time, not start!). Whatever floats other peoples boat, just gotta wait for ding to sort it now


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