Space, the final frontier
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Re: Space, the final frontier
Posted by fraggard on Tue Nov 9th at 2:20am 2004


http://www.guardian.co.uk/space/article/0,14493,1345460,00.html

Apparently, the US government has been drawing up plans to establish "Space superiority".

BUT The article says "Internal USAF Documents", and does not elaborate more on the source. Still, this is really disturbing if it's true. I can only imagine the consequences if the US government's military policies are carried into space.





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Re: Space, the final frontier
Posted by Crono on Tue Nov 9th at 4:35am 2004


pfft, we don't have enough money to gain space superiority. No one does, except maybe Time Warner. Apparently we're even having trouble gaining middle east superiority.

I think what'll happen is companies will get there at the same time as governments. Since they've completed several "commercialized" space flights (starting with ONE a couple months ago).

See, the thing is, we know how to launch colonizing ships, they're just expensive. More money then most countries have. Same thing goes with making gravity on a ship: we can do it, but it's too expensive.

Defense arrays are another topic though. [addsig]




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Re: Space, the final frontier
Posted by wil5on on Tue Nov 9th at 8:18am 2004


I read this and thought... 31337. Wont happen, but it sounds cool.

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Re: Space, the final frontier
Posted by Leperous on Tue Nov 9th at 8:23am 2004


Meh, it'll happen one day.





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Re: Space, the final frontier
Posted by wil5on on Tue Nov 9th at 8:27am 2004


Yeah, and when it does, I'm getting a small freighter and fitting it out with light laser cannons. I'll trade ore around the system until I've got the cash for a fighter-class, then I'll take a hyperspace gate out to the nebula and hunt criminals for bounty, thats where the real money is [addsig]



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Re: Space, the final frontier
Posted by Fjorn on Tue Nov 9th at 9:25am 2004


Gasp! You've just outlined my life's dreams!




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Re: Space, the final frontier
Posted by Mephs on Tue Nov 9th at 9:54am 2004


Fact it, anywhere someone hasnt touched yet, I own. I own jupiter, and mars. And the belt of comets and stuff. I own them. So NER nasa!

Mephs lays claim to everything outside the earth.

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Re: Space, the final frontier
Posted by Andrei on Tue Nov 9th at 10:01am 2004


The US conquering space? They couldn't even conquer Iraq properly .

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Re: Space, the final frontier
Posted by Mephs on Tue Nov 9th at 10:07am 2004


Shush, the gaseous planerts have LOTS of oil

Here's hoping THEY get 'liberated' from the zero tolerance regime of the anti-breathing terrorists. And the world is happy .

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Re: Space, the final frontier
Posted by Orpheus on Tue Nov 9th at 10:25am 2004


? quoting Andrei

The US conquering space? They couldn't even conquer Iraq properly .

*glares*

funny, i'll admit we failed at something, but i was not aware we were even attempting "conquer"

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Re: Space, the final frontier
Posted by MisterBister on Tue Nov 9th at 2:22pm 2004


? quoting Mephs

Shush, the gaseous planerts have LOTS of oil

Here's hoping THEY get 'liberated' from the zero tolerance regime of the anti-breathing terrorists. And the world is happy .

L O L !





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Re: Space, the final frontier
Posted by Wild Card on Tue Nov 9th at 2:58pm 2004


Its like Space Cowbows. 'Cept the nuclear satalite will be American, not Russian.

This is going to spell Star Wars. But it wont be a long long time ago, in a far far away galaxy. Alright, Im going to design my very own X-Wing and frag USAF's ass

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Re: Space, the final frontier
Posted by Andrei on Tue Nov 9th at 5:52pm 2004


? quoting Orpheus
? quoting Andrei

The US conquering space? They couldn't even conquer Iraq properly .

*glares*

funny, i'll admit we failed at something, but i was not aware we were even attempting "conquer"

Oh, sorry, i forgot the quotes around "conquer" .

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Re: Space, the final frontier
Posted by pepper on Tue Nov 9th at 6:02pm 2004


rrm, i should prepare my snarks for a space war, baaaad... il have to inform the supreme commander about this, how can we take voer the world now if we have to go space first......
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Re: Space, the final frontier
Posted by Tracer Bullet on Tue Nov 9th at 6:18pm 2004


Umm... Yeah, I've no idea what you are all babbling about. What's being talked about is neither prohibitively expensive, or particularly scary. What's so different about satellite based weapons vs. the GPS system or Spy satellites? The US already has hundreds of defense related satellites in Orbit, and it won't be that expensive or difficult to add a few more. Besides that, the idea of non-weaponized space is just silly. That's like an agreement saying that fighters and bombers are illegal, but recon flights are OK Besides, you could argue strongly that ICBMs are space-weapons anyway so these things are nothing new. It's a very natural evolution of America's "air power" emphasis.

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Re: Space, the final frontier
Posted by Andrei on Tue Nov 9th at 6:44pm 2004


I've heard that a private company has managed to build an aircraft that carried a single man into orbit and back. This is a step in the right direction. [addsig]



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Re: Space, the final frontier
Posted by Crono on Tue Nov 9th at 9:11pm 2004


I like how everyone is posting s**t I already said

But, they've done those flights a few times. A step in the direction of interstellar traveling. If accidents are terrible with planes hitting water, what would be on the news if one of these ships decompressed.
The one thing that would be cool would be travel times. Since you'd be going up into the outer atmosphere of Earth and back down everything would be very quick. I think it would take somewhere around 90 minutes of actual travel time to circle the globe. (I used that number based on satellite times)

That would be completely bad ass. [addsig]




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Re: Space, the final frontier
Posted by Tracer Bullet on Tue Nov 9th at 9:31pm 2004


? quoting Andrei
I've heard that a private company has managed to build an aircraft that carried a single man into orbit and back. This is a step in the right direction.

Spaceship One reached neither orbital height nor velocity. It cleared the earth's atmosphere at a little over 100 km and came back down. That is a far cry from an orbital venture for two reasons. First of all, significant heat shielding is unnecessary for such a gentle "reentry", and second, it didn't have to boost nearly as much fuel as it would have had the objective been orbital velocities (16-18,000 mph). It is a step in the right direction, but not such a large one as you might think.

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Re: Space, the final frontier
Posted by NameWithHeld on Wed Nov 10th at 1:47am 2004


well, i din't think the stats were just like that, but anyway, wasn't that virgin blue?



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Re: Space, the final frontier
Posted by Orpheus on Wed Nov 10th at 1:55am 2004


? quoting Crono
I like how everyone is posting s**t I already said

several people left me feeling like a moron today, if it will make you feel better you may do so as well.. in this way you can participate in posting something someone else already had, and you will not notice so much when people post things you already did..

go ahead, beat me up, it will make you feel better

[addsig]





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