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Posted by Andrei on Sun Nov 14th at 12:36pm 2004

Just saw the news! This is bad! Really bad! If that psycho really has nuclear weapons and religious motivation, then he is just insane enough to use them on the US, like he plans to!

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=30003

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash2.htm

http://www.rense.com/general59/osamahasreligious.htm

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Posted by Leperous on Sun Nov 14th at 2:50pm 2004

Stop for a minute and consider those news sources... This is one of those times where you really really shouldn't believe everything the internet tells you. The Drudge Report is notorious for being, well, rubbish.



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Posted by Gwil on Sun Nov 14th at 2:57pm 2004

He's also Saudi Arabian, not French. Bin Laden is the correct name

And yeah, the details are sketchy, vague and seem overhyped at best..
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Posted by Orpheus on Sun Nov 14th at 3:04pm 2004

i heard about it on MSNBC TV this morning, i promptly changed the channel. [addsig]



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Posted by Dr Brasso on Sun Nov 14th at 3:08pm 2004

well lets see......if he manages to detonate any of these pups on US soil, well......im thinking that all bets are off........and you will definately see what true "unilateralism" means.......

Doc B.....





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Posted by Kain on Sun Nov 14th at 3:19pm 2004

He would never dare to do that. That would completely unleash the anger of the Americans. If he nukes NY, the next day all the arab capitals will be wiped out... Religious approval or not, no one's gonna open a Pandora's box.





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Posted by Dr Brasso on Sun Nov 14th at 3:23pm 2004

actually, i think the "pandoras box", and the ensueing chaos is exactly what he wants....IMHO

Doc B....

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Posted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Sun Nov 14th at 3:23pm 2004

Newsflash: He flew two planes into the world trade center.

I don't think there's any doubt as to wether or not he would use nukes if he had them.




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Posted by Dr Brasso on Sun Nov 14th at 3:27pm 2004

well stated, yet a tad understated dave..... touche'''''''

agreed.....

Doc B....





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Posted by Gwil on Sun Nov 14th at 3:28pm 2004

Good point Alien_Sniper - it's not as if he gained approval from clerics to do that, only hardline fundamentalists condoned it - and they're more than likely in league with the various Arab terrorist cells anyhow.

If they had nukes (I watched a theoretical television show based on this idea) or nuclear material, the best they could manage is an equivalent to the Hiroshima bomb. Even then they are not reckoned to have the amount of nuclear material needed (if any at all), the expertise, the facilities and the funds to undertake such an operation.

More to the point they feel that because the US has taken it's eyes off of Afghanistan, Pakistan and the -nesia regions, Bin Laden and associates will try and provoke popular uprisings in regions where large sections of the population are considering/align themselves with "hardline Islam". That's what we really need to worry about and analyse.

That or Iran and North Korea - although, I feel they may have more sense than to stand up to the US government and provoke them with nuclear bait.
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Posted by Orpheus on Sun Nov 14th at 3:30pm 2004

? quoting Dr Brasso

well stated, yet a tad understated dave.....

uhh, i agree, but.. i am also hopeful.

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Posted by fraggard on Sun Nov 14th at 4:38pm 2004

If bin laden did have nukes, I expect the American intelligence agencies would know of them far ahead of any conventional news source. BIG BRUDDER IS WACHING YU.

Edit: BTW: who exactly is this Michael scheuer? It seems implausible to me that the CIA would allow it's "head of the CIA unit charged with tracking down the Saudi terrorist" to write two books against US policies on fighting terrorists.





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Posted by Kain on Sun Nov 14th at 5:00pm 2004

? quoting Alien_Sniper
Newsflash: He flew two planes into the world trade center.

I don't think there's any doubt as to wether or not he would use nukes if he had them.

Taking down two towers cannot be compared with nuclear explosion: we're talking about contaminating a land for many decades, mass lung and skin cancer in a vast perimeter, etc... Remember Hiroshima and Tchernobil. For two buildings the US has already invaded two countries (considering Iraq is another reply for 9/11). A nuclear attack is by far a much worse offense; so they must expect a proportional strike back from the American eagle, in case they have the means to do it. Even if Ben Laden is a lunatic, his allies certainly are not.





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Posted by KungFuSquirrel on Sun Nov 14th at 5:10pm 2004

As horrific and devastating as a nuclear attack would be, he'd be foolish to do so. Right now he's able to be kinda comfortable with most of the US' military strength tied up elsewhere and the remaining portions of the world still divided over US actions abroad. Detonate a nuke, and suddenly everyone could care less about Iraq and any other distracting factors. [addsig]



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Posted by MisterBister on Sun Nov 14th at 5:16pm 2004

? quote:

If they had nukes (I watched a theoretical television show based on this idea) or nuclear material, the best they could manage is an equivalent to the Hiroshima bomb. Even then they are not reckoned to have the amount of nuclear material needed (if any at all), the expertise, the facilities and the funds to undertake such an operation.


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Bin laden doesnt need to make one himself.
At least 30 small nuclear briefcases (containing mini-nukes capable of blowing an entire city core of the planet) has been stolen from Russia due to low security.
In addition to that an amount* of nuclear missiles made during the soviet era has been stolen aswell.
No one knows where they are right now.

Im not saying that Bin laden HAS something like this.
I just say that he doesnt need to make one himself.
And IF he had one he still would have to make a launchpad and a crew smart enough to program it. Personally i think it would be pretty hard to get hold of such a staff.

* = I dont really know how many it was.




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Posted by Andrei on Sun Nov 14th at 5:47pm 2004

? quoting Gwil
Bin Laden is the correct name

Every TV channel spells his name diffrently .

True or not, US intelligence failed to predict the 9-11 events. Will they fail again?

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Posted by Gwil on Sun Nov 14th at 5:56pm 2004

? quote:
? quoting Gwil
Bin Laden is the correct name

Every TV channel spells his name diffrently .

True or not, US intelligence failed to predict the 9-11 events. Will they fail again?



Well, your TV is stupid

http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/topten/fugitives/laden.htm
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Posted by $loth on Sun Nov 14th at 6:24pm 2004

The US knew that they were being threatened with attacks on government buildings, they could of prevented it. [addsig]



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Posted by Crono on Sun Nov 14th at 7:20pm 2004

? quote:
True or not, US intelligence failed to predict the 9-11 events. Will they fail again?



*cough* commander and chief sort of ignored their warnings when they did know [addsig]



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Posted by Leperous on Sun Nov 14th at 7:31pm 2004

There is no "proper" way to spell him name, Arabic has it's own symbols. That's onomatopoeia for you and is like spelling the sound you make when you laugh




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