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Posted by Neural Scan on Mon Nov 22nd at 9:14pm 2004

Too right...

And if you find replayability in it... you need help man!





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Posted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Tue Nov 23rd at 12:21am 2004

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Well, he was an Archduke in power and he was killed... I'd call that an assassination.

And Crono: Ironically, I'm writing my final on how the media isn't a cause for violent behaviors.



I'd be highly interested in reading that if you have an electronic copy handy. I've read a bit on the subject, and both sides proport to have 'conclusive evidence'.




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Posted by Hugh on Tue Nov 23rd at 10:54am 2004

Lep: It's not supposed to be just shooting him, you're supposed to try to shoot him in the right spots and in the right sequence. At least that's what my newspaper said this morning. I agree about its tactlessness, though.

TwoKnives: http://snarkpit.com/pits/hugh/final.zip - It's not complete atm since I'm too good at procrastinating, but its slightly over 4 pages should keep you shortly entertained, hopefully.

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Posted by fraggard on Tue Nov 23rd at 5:16pm 2004

I just saw this in the national news over here. Probably the first time ANY game has EVER been mentioned on the national news.





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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Nov 23rd at 5:29pm 2004

? quoting fraggard
I just saw this in the national news over here. Probably the first time ANY game has EVER been mentioned on the national news.

you mean, pong hasn't made it to your fair countries news cast yet? you must really live in the backwoods.

/runs

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Posted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Tue Nov 23rd at 6:26pm 2004

A backwoods he navigates with an awesome dirtbike! (man I love that bike).




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Posted by pepper on Tue Nov 23rd at 7:23pm 2004

quiet an interesting article hugh. makes you think about it. by saying that i mean that i totaly agree wiht you.
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Posted by Crono on Tue Nov 23rd at 9:28pm 2004

Hugh, dude, you use, commas, way too much,.,,,.

Some of your paragraphs can be combined (Such as the first three).

You also need to define what you mean by "Media".
The first (should be) paragraph states:

The Media saw his journal, saw videogames and music and blamed the attack on that media. But was media responsable?

That's not what you meant to say, I'm sure. But, if you simplify the sentences, that's what your paper is saying. Just thought you might want to do something about that.
Maybe, you should refer to News Media as "Media" and entertainment media as "Medium" and use it like:

NOTE: This should not be a new paragraph, you're not starting a new topic, you're even referencing the last sentence.

"Harris? journal carries passages mentioning bands and video games that he liked, the news media quickly assigned responsability of the events on the video game and music mediums, because they are violent in nature. One of Harris' and Klebold's favorite bands, KMFDM, has many songs about violence against oppression, something the gunmen thought they experienced at Columbine."

(Note, some sort of identifier besides 'they' needs to be here, I put the gunmen as an example, their names would work if they weren't used in the sentence already)

Make sense? Just the way you've written some parts make it so the paper doesn't flow very smoothly. [addsig]



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Posted by Dr Brasso on Wed Nov 24th at 12:35am 2004

back to topic.......

i personally find it quite offensive....i remember when the man was killed, it was the fall of a king......or the closest we've come to it in this country......

it was a hellish period...

........maybe used as a tool for forensic analysis or training or such, but i dont see anyone but those who are a little of kilter trying to market this as a game....

and i'd tend to agree with Lep on this part (**groan... ) as it does smack of ploy of some type....

Dr Brasso.....

....too many dots Crono?...... runs////





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Posted by Gwil on Wed Nov 24th at 12:36am 2004

Don't the lyrics of KMFDM actively encourage armed uprisings and rebellion? The very nature of their music does, anyhow (thats the implication in some of the songs at least).


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Posted by Gwil on Wed Nov 24th at 12:40am 2004

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back to topic.......

i personally find it quite offensive....i remember when the man was killed, it was the fall of a king......or the closest we've come to it in this country......

it was a hellish period...

........maybe used as a tool for forensic analysis or training or such, but i dont see anyone whos not a little of kilter trying to market this as a game....

and i'd tend to agree with Lep on this part (**groan... ) as it does smack of ploy of some type....

Dr Brasso.....

....too many dots Crono?...... runs////



Oh indeed, I think it is totally uncalled for morally and economically(I do believe it is to cash in on the controversy, especially when Ted (?) kennedy is still alive and well. It's another example of humans taking humanity off their personas. Quite sad really

Although the assassination of Tony LIAR LIAR FAUX SOCIALIST SMUG OUT OF TOUCH SELF BELIEF IN ONESELF AKIN TO MONARCH STATUS LIAR LIAR WEAK SPINELESS Blair would be fun to play.

And I dont mean on a computer game either
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Posted by Dr Brasso on Wed Nov 24th at 12:45am 2004

? posted by Gwil

Oh indeed, I think it is totally uncalled for morally and economically(I do believe it is to cash in on the controversy, especially when Ted (?) kennedy is still alive and well. It's another example of humans taking humanity off their personas. Quite sad really

Although the assassination of Tony LIAR LIAR FAUX SOCIALIST SMUG OUT OF TOUCH SELF BELIEF IN ONESELF AKIN TO MONARCH STATUS LIAR LIAR WEAK SPINELESS Blair would be fun to play.

And I dont mean on a computer game either

there is your target audience......

Dr B....

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Posted by Gwil on Wed Nov 24th at 12:49am 2004

For someone who is wise and learned, you have a disturbed mind DrB.

Disturbed doesn't even touch it

I reckon it's Orphs influence </flamebait> (whatever happened to that tag? )
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Posted by Dr Brasso on Wed Nov 24th at 12:52am 2004

ROFL>>>>

thats kinda the pot called the kettle isnt it there my UK brother??.....

Doc B...

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Posted by Gwil on Wed Nov 24th at 12:55am 2004

Pah.

As if that's the case!

*gets coat and quietly skulks off back to his lair*


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Posted by fishy on Wed Nov 24th at 2:08am 2004

on the other side of the coin, or globe, or wherever, how many people go to sleep at night dreaming of killing a US president?

the amount of 'fun' to be had in a game like this would be inversely proportional to the complaints about its morality. more fun=less complaints, sucky gameplay=lets take the moral high ground on this one.

i doubt that many 'car-jacked at gunpoint' victims will be rushing out for the next installment of GTA.

if a games gameplay sucks then fair enough. but to judge a games morality is a bit iffy, considering that every one here has games that they love, with aspects just as morally questionable.

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Posted by Dr Brasso on Wed Nov 24th at 2:38am 2004

well, personally fishman, i find it a swipe at something i hold quite dear, and jfk as one of the great presidents we'v had here.....i shy away from calling it blasphemous, but its damn sure disrepectful to any American, or from any American......nomatter what the gameplay is like.............remember, this is all IMHO

my 2 cents///

Doc Brasso...





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Posted by Spartan on Wed Nov 24th at 2:45am 2004

? quoting Dr Brasso
well, personally fishman, i find it a swipe at something i hold quite dear, and jfk as one of the great presidents we'v had here.....i shy away from calling it blasphemous, but its damn sure disrepectful to any American, or from any American......nomatter what the gameplay is like.............remember, this is all IMHO

my 2 cents///

Doc Brasso...

Well put. Who made the game anyways. JFK was a great president and the creators can say that they made this game for historical education but behind the curtains it's just a sinical game for money and 15 minutes of gaming fame.

JFK switched around and adding an "S" is KFS, then that switched around and adding a "C" is KFC. Coincidence? I think not.





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Posted by Orpheus on Wed Nov 24th at 3:07am 2004

i know i may get into hot water for saying this but, how are we supposed to expect our children to differentiate between fiction and reality, when we cannot do it ourselves?

any game based on real events is still only a game. i have s**tloads more respect and heartfelt sentiments over the guys who fought and died in WW1 and WW2, but we frag games based on those actions daily. i love fallout, but would never love nuclear holocaust, yet japan suffered such a fate, should we boycott the game?

i think we should stand on our morals and either say games are games and as such should not matter, or we should say that games cause children to do evil.

we cannot mix and match our thinking on things just because its about an important figure.

you know, i bet money that some religious sects get pissed royal because we make maps that resemble holy sites and we frag in them.. kinda makes you think, are we selfishly arrogant, or just selective???

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Posted by fishy on Wed Nov 24th at 3:25am 2004

? quoting Dr Brasso
well, personally fishman, i find it a swipe at something i hold quite dear, and jfk as one of the great presidents we'v had here.....i shy away from calling it blasphemous, but its damn sure disrepectful to any American, or from any American......nomatter what the gameplay is like.............remember, this is all IMHO

my 2 cents///

Doc Brasso...

i don't disagree with your sentiments. i just meant that more people would be prepared to overlook the fact that the game is an afront to a great americans memory, if it had superior gameplay.

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