god i hope you do not truly believe that. sounds an awful lot like you believe the crap they feed you.

piracy doesn't hurt, it doesn't help, but it doesn't hurt.

lets say hypothetically now, 1 million copies are sold, and one million are pirated. they sold 1 million, there is no way to know if any of the other one million would ever consider buying, so we are stuck with "one million sold"

thats the number that counts toward profit and loss. not the pirated copies as no money ever exchanges hands.

as i keep saying, corporate bigwigs think differently, they are not realistic at all. how would you like to have to buy groceries on your projected income, and find out you only made half of it. would you feel cheated that you only made 1/2? or would you think that the 1/2 is all there is? in other word 100% of your total income?

if they could come up with a legal way to profit from piracy, they would. the crying would end there and then.

jeez people, use the brain you were born with, and if that fails, listen to someone with a few more cells than you seem capable of using. :/

bottom line, you CANNOT LOSE what you never had. its that simple.

Didn't acclaim go bankrupt because for every 1 game sold legally, 50 were sold by pirates and countless others lost via file-sharing programs? They lost many POTENTIAL customers.

Don't get me wrong, tho, im not one of those anti-pirate fanatics. I live in the 3rd...erm, the 2nd world and software piracy is something common here. Besides, if it weren't for piracy, many of those who own a computer here would have never bought their computers in the first place (software here is very expensive relative to the average sallary). Whats the point of paying through the nose 36mil lei for a computer and then buy 10mil lei worth of software [windows=2mil, special software between 2 and 8 (!!!) mil]. Few mortals have that kind of cash ...

And a pirate disc is as much as 100,000 lei!

damn, the topic just ended

to bad.

to me its just like saying, i only screw 17 year old girls, cause its more damaging to screw 15 year olds

both are wrong (assuming you are over 18 in the USA of course, its an illustration)

i couldn't give a rats ass about the gaming industry, they make enough off 1/2 the sales they do achieve. i am ONLY talking about personal morals. if you feel that you only pirate one game out of 100 and someone else steals all 100 are not the same, you might rethink right and wrong

Duncan, you are taking this to personal, BECAUSE my definition of wrong, puts you on a far worse level than you are willing to admit. you steal even one game, and its wrong, don't attempt to rationalize it by saying "i do my part"

OK, forget about games then, would you consider death by gunshot better or worse than by knife point?

would you consider rape by males worse than rape by females (yeah it occurs)

would you consider steal one car instead of 10 less wrong?

my point isn't how it looks on paper, or under the law (cause laws vary from place to place) i am thinking morals.

i know its wrong to steal, i am not saying otherwise, but i am not saying "Take him, he stole one more game than i did"

i know you are prolly thinking that this is apples and oranges comparing rape and piracy, but i do not.

what we need 1st, is to establish some common ground.

what you need to do is, tell me what in your opinion is a wrong without any shades of grey.. what can you do as Duncan, that would be just as wrong if i were to do it too.

if nothing else, by now you should realize that i do not sanction so many shades of grey, i think almost entirely in black/white.. i have always been so ever since i came here. give me a definitive case where a wrong is a wrong to you with no shades, and we can work up from there.

i suppose there is no common ground then Duncan. i do believe torture killing is worse than say accidental killing, but after you die, will you really care how you got that way?

we may find torture killing more abhorrent, but is it truly worse? after all, the poor victim is dead, how much worse can it be for them?

rape is rape, be it premeditated, or spontaneous, one cannot be worse than another, both end up the same in the end.

i dunno, maybe its just this generation.. i would hope that if you are raped, or murdered someday, that you get the lessor of the choices of action

Vash, Spyware, doesnt have to be a website. Spyware is classified as any software that tracks files, registry entries or any other data and changes thereof on a personal computer. Anyway, I want to be able to modify my files and all that without getting booted.