Valve DM Map Contest
Post Reply
Quote
Re: Valve DM Map Contest
Posted by Tracer Bullet on Wed Dec 1st at 11:03pm 2004


I'm just curious to see how much competition I might have. I imagine those 3-5,000 dollar prizes will generate quite a bit. I'm not sure myself that I will enter, but it may well be worth a shot.



Quote
Re: Valve DM Map Contest
Posted by Crono on Wed Dec 1st at 11:10pm 2004


I voted no. I would if I could, but I'm exempt. One of those retail version draw backs (bastards) [addsig]



Quote
Re: Valve DM Map Contest
Posted by ReNo on Wed Dec 1st at 11:10pm 2004


Apparently somebody on the VERC forums did the sign up page and was given an entry number of over 2200! If that sort of number of people are signing up on the first day, it could be see insane number of entries. Of course, not everyone who signs up on some online form will actually complete a map and enter it, but its still an indication of the sort of interest level in the contest.

I'm certainly planning on entering, probably with a heavily modified remake of my HLDM map Echo. With only a month to make the level and plenty of other things to be doing over that time, I doubt I'd have time to make something entirely new.

EDIT: Crono, how does the retail version make you exempt? Surely they wouldn't cut you out like that?
[addsig]




Quote
Re: Valve DM Map Contest
Posted by Captain P on Wed Dec 1st at 11:16pm 2004


I'm thinking up on some idea's and I'll probably enter, if I get enough time to do a map that is.

And about finishing maps, that's a true point ReNo... I'll sign up once I'm done with my map. No need to make promises that I'm not sure of I'm capable keeping.

Now where are those interesting combine textures... and where's that console command that returns the texture I'm looking at...
// CP falls back into mapping murmling...
[addsig]




Quote
Re: Valve DM Map Contest
Posted by Neural Scan on Wed Dec 1st at 11:17pm 2004


I would if i could, but it's 18+, so I'm a bit screwed there... I wanted 5000 dollars! Think of the nerdy things I could buy with that...

I doubt too many of those 2200 are actually any good... ph34r the killbox spammage! Man I pity the people who have to sort out all those maps...

Oh well I'm still gonna make a map (or 50)

[addsig]




Quote
Re: Valve DM Map Contest
Posted by Crono on Wed Dec 1st at 11:23pm 2004


ReNo, you would think so, wouldn't you? But apparently I'm a "bad, unimportant, customer" because I bought a retail copy.

Clause 1 of the rules:

? quote:
1. Eligibility. The Contest is open to individuals or groups of individuals (each an "Entrant"), each of whom must be (a) a subscriber to Half-Life 2 via Valve?s Steam service; and (b) at least 18 years old at the time of submitting their Contest Entry. The Contest is open worldwide, except where prohibited by law. Employees of Valve or its affiliates (the "Contest Sponsors"), and their immediate family or household members, are not eligible to participate.


Honestly, I'm getting sick of this s**t.

[EDIT]
Also, be aware whatever you send them you lose all rights to. [addsig]




Quote
Re: Valve DM Map Contest
Posted by Hugh on Wed Dec 1st at 11:23pm 2004


I'd sex up Zeromancer for it but I don't even have HL2... eventually I'll update my s**t, but until then, meh. [addsig]



Quote
Re: Valve DM Map Contest
Posted by ReNo on Wed Dec 1st at 11:27pm 2004


What I'd like to know is if each entrant is limited to a single entry. Considering its possible to enter group efforts, it could be fun to have a snarkpit collaboration thing as well as our own serious entries. The contest rules page isn't too revealing on this front - opinions?
[addsig]




Quote
Re: Valve DM Map Contest
Posted by Crono on Wed Dec 1st at 11:28pm 2004


*sigh*

? quote:

4. Contest Entry Requirements. Each Contest Entry must consist of a map for a single level of Half-Life 2 Deathmatch


Have you read the rules?


Also, This might stop you from putting up any map information on this site:

? quote:

Contest Entries may not have been previously published.


Basically, this contest is an easy way for VALVe to create a map catalog for HL2DM. [addsig]




Quote
Re: Valve DM Map Contest
Posted by KungFuSquirrel on Wed Dec 1st at 11:28pm 2004


I would if not for Mr. No-Compete, regardless of how clunky and impossible it is to use Hammer. I'll have to settle for just doing environmental scenes and planning my Squirrel-Pack for Q4. [addsig]



Quote
Re: Valve DM Map Contest
Posted by ReNo on Wed Dec 1st at 11:31pm 2004


I didn't read it as that to be honest Crono. That says an entry is one multiplayer map, it doesn't say a person can only have one entry. I'm also not convinced that retail buyers are exempt, I think it just means you need to have a steam account with Half-Life 2 on it to be eligible to enter.
[addsig]




Quote
Re: Valve DM Map Contest
Posted by Crono on Wed Dec 1st at 11:34pm 2004


? quoting ReNo
I didn't read it as that to be honest Crono. That says an entry is one
multiplayer map, it doesn't say a person can only have one entry. I'm
also not convinced that retail buyers are exempt, I think it just means
you need to have a steam account with Half-Life 2 on it to be eligible
to enter.



Then wouldn't it just say "A suscriber to half-life 2"? Since you have to have steam to play HL2 and all ...

Maybe, you can register more then once, but what I quoted says is that you can only give one map per enterance. But, whatever, give it a try if you want. [addsig]




Quote
Re: Valve DM Map Contest
Posted by Yak_Fighter on Wed Dec 1st at 11:38pm 2004


? quoting Crono
Also, be aware whatever you send them you lose all rights to.

You don't lose the rights to your map. Unless I read it wrong the only maps they'll keep are the contest winners, and then you're getting paid cold hard cash (or steam-bucks I dunno). Besides, it's not like Valve will get a cease and desist order on you if you release your map to the community, and if they do release a bunch of them officially without paying for them, well that's free publicity for the mapper.

[addsig]




Quote
Re: Valve DM Map Contest
Posted by Adam Hawkins on Wed Dec 1st at 11:38pm 2004


I'd like to enter but it's a little too soon after the release and too little time in which to build something i'd be happy to release (especially as I haven't had a play with the new editor yet).

I also interpreted that retail HL2 owners are exempt - it's the way they use the word 'subscriber'.

[addsig]




Quote
Re: Valve DM Map Contest
Posted by Nickelplate on Wed Dec 1st at 11:40pm 2004


? quoting Crono
I voted no. I would if I could, but I'm exempt. One of those retail version draw backs (bastards)

Wait a second!!! what "retail version drawbacks?" You mean that if I bought my copy at wal-mart i cannot enter the map contest?!!

[addsig]




Quote
Re: Valve DM Map Contest
Posted by Crono on Wed Dec 1st at 11:40pm 2004


? quote:

You don't lose the rights to your map. Unless I read it wrong the only maps they'll keep are the contest winners, and then you're getting paid cold hard cash (or steam-bucks I dunno). Besides, it's not like Valve will get a cease and desist order on you if you release your map to the community, and if they do release a bunch of them officially without paying for them, well that's free publicity for the mapper.



Right, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least, to be honest.


? quote:

Wait a second!!! what "retail version drawbacks?" You mean that if I bought my copy at wal-mart i cannot enter the map contest?!!


That's just how it looks by the way they worded the rules. Which I'm sure were worded that way to confuse people. It plainly says half-life 2 subscribers VIA steam.

If you interpret that as "if you use steam", you have to think about that for a second, you HAVE to use steam, you don't have a choice, so the only alternative (that I'm aware of) is that you bought it through steam. [addsig]




Quote
Re: Valve DM Map Contest
Posted by ReNo on Wed Dec 1st at 11:55pm 2004


There is another alternative - you own HL2 but haven't bothered with Steam (and yes that means you haven't played HL2). Pretty unlikely scenario but rules have to include such things, so perhaps the wording just means you have to have both Steam and HL2, which isn't necessarily true from just owning HL2.
[addsig]




Quote
Re: Valve DM Map Contest
Posted by Crono on Wed Dec 1st at 11:55pm 2004


? quoting ReNo
There is another alternative - you own HL2 but haven't bothered with
Steam (and yes that means you haven't played HL2). Pretty unlikely
scenario but rules have to include such things, so perhaps the wording
just means you have to have both Steam and HL2, which isn't
necessarily true from just owning HL2.



But how would you map for HL2 if you didn't activate through steam? You can't get the SDK otherwise. [addsig]




Quote
Re: Valve DM Map Contest
Posted by ReNo on Wed Dec 1st at 11:57pm 2004


To be honest, I just don't think Valve gave this much thought into the rules. By what they said, I reckon they mean "entrants must have a steam account with HL2". I hope for your sake I'm right, its really f**king lame if I'm not
[addsig]




Quote
Re: Valve DM Map Contest
Posted by Spartan on Wed Dec 1st at 11:57pm 2004


Yes how do you get the SDK with the retail version? [addsig]




Post Reply