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Posted by angel of death on Sun Dec 5th at 4:39am 2004

This might be a silly question but, in what part of the world does HL2 take place? If you pay attention to some of the details they would suggest Europe. The one thing that got me thinking was I looked at the license plates on the cars and they all had European tags. Does anyone else have any thoughts or ideas on this?




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Posted by Tracer Bullet on Sun Dec 5th at 4:41am 2004

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Posted by ReNo on Sun Dec 5th at 4:43am 2004

Eastern Europe, but they never give a precise location or country.
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Posted by Leperous on Sun Dec 5th at 12:19pm 2004

There are some Russian and Western posters in there... Though there's a large poster with a not-so-recognisable picture Hong Kong on it, for some reason (posters001a). Even though it's probably location-less, like Springfield in the Simpsons, my guess would be somewhere in Bulgaria or Romania that's on the Black Sea coast? Varna, perhaps?





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Posted by Kage_Prototype on Sun Dec 5th at 1:22pm 2004

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/russia/secret-cities.htm

http://www.nti.org/db/nisprofs/russia/naval/nucflt/pacflt/shkotovo.htm

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/bolshoi-kamen.htm

That's something that cropped up on the hl2.net forums.
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Posted by azelito on Sun Dec 5th at 2:16pm 2004

The train station says "tren" which is in Spanish or French, probably lots of other languages as well. By the look of the town and the layout of the streets, Id say eastern Europe somewhere but then again, what sea is that in the game? Hmm, how about Romania or something? [addsig]



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Posted by Crono on Sun Dec 5th at 9:24pm 2004

? quoting Leperous
There are some Russian and Western posters in there... Though there's a large poster with a not-so-recognisable picture Hong Kong on it, for some reason (posters001a). Even though it's probably location-less, like Springfield in the Simpsons, my guess would be somewhere in Bulgaria or Romania that's on the Black Sea coast? Varna, perhaps?


The Simpsons are in Kentucky. [addsig]



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Posted by Kage_Prototype on Sun Dec 5th at 9:56pm 2004

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? quoting Leperous
There are some Russian and Western posters in there... Though there's a large poster with a not-so-recognisable picture Hong Kong on it, for some reason (posters001a). Even though it's probably location-less, like Springfield in the Simpsons, my guess would be somewhere in Bulgaria or Romania that's on the Black Sea coast? Varna, perhaps?


The Simpsons are in Kentucky.


Nope.

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In the first airing of [BABF19], "Behind The Laughter", the
narrator gave Springfield's location as northern Kentucky.
For the second and some later airings, this changed to
southern Missouri. But neither of these are admissible
locations for Springfield, for the many reasons listed later
in this document.

What's the explanation? This episode is not canon.
It portrays the show not as a cartoon created by Matt
Groening, but as a live-action sitcom originally written by
Homer and starring his own family. None of what happens is
part of the main Simpsons continuity... just like any Halloween Special.



http://www.snpp.com/guides/springfield.list.html
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Posted by Crono on Mon Dec 6th at 12:24am 2004

Actually, I figured it was Kentucy way before I ever saw that episode. I know the town isn't real, it's a mutli-flasited town. But, if you were to map it to any place inparticular, Kentucy makes the most sense. [addsig]



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Posted by Gorbachev on Mon Dec 6th at 6:19am 2004

I have the "Raising the Bar" artwork book, and in it they discuss about their references and such. The town isn't supposed to really be anywhere, but they took architecture from the 30s, 40s etc. up to the 70s in an Eastern European type setting...but purposely removed some things such as the gothic architecture in many areas. As well, they stated that in a lot of respects they toned down the realism as it detracted from the excitement at times. City 17 is basically everywhere and nowhere. [addsig]



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Posted by LAzerMANiac on Mon Dec 6th at 7:50am 2004

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City-17 was not a city in fact, but rather a large grouping of urban and suburban regions around Prague, in the Czech Republic (or at least it used to be the Czech Republic, before it collapsed under the might of The Combine


HL2 : The Resistance

A pretty good read if you're bored waiting for your new motherobard to ship... [addsig]



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Posted by Andrei on Mon Dec 6th at 5:26pm 2004

? quoting azelito
The train station says "tren"

Really? I havent gotten that far through the game yet. And yeah, 'tren' is train in romanian (romanian - latin, that's why it sounds like french or spanish). Wonder why they chose this rock of all places.

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Posted by azelito on Mon Dec 6th at 5:46pm 2004

? quoting Andrei
? quoting azelito
The train station says "tren"

Really? I havent gotten that far through the game yet. And yeah, 'tren' is train in romanian (romanian - latin, that's why it sounds like french or spanish). Wonder why they chose this rock of all places.

Actually, its in the very very beginning. At least I think it says tren, I might be wrong.

Anyway, if this is in the Czech republic, then what is that sea about? It looks quite big and... Yea well, see for yourselfs, where is it?

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Posted by Nickelplate on Tue Dec 7th at 2:58am 2004

I see many Cyrillic characters in City 17. This suggests somewhere in russia or the Balkans. The city architecture is that of a more southerly balkan country. With the coast in consideration, HL2 takes place closeby any of 2 large bodies of water: The Adriatic Sea, or the Black Sea. As the it is too far north we can rule out black sea. We can probably surmise that we are now in Slovenia, Croatia, or Yugoslavia.

Along the Adriatic sea we actually see this type of rock formation. Called Karst topography. http://deanoman.com/email/balkans/balkan4_41.JPG this is indicative of the Karst region of the balkans In Slovenia (formerly Yugoslavia)
Map of the Balkans: http://www.uottawa.ca/associations/balkanpeace/maps/regional.gif
Maps of the karst region, note that this is an old map of northern slovenia. http://www.asak.org.yu/karst/kras/classicalkarst.html

The only Large enough city in the Karst region is TRIESTE. Here in trieste, we see a very recognizeable feature. http://www.teatroverdi-trieste.com/verdi2004/2.Attivita/1.StagioneTeatrale/1.TeatroVerdi/1.3.Tosca/images/Roma1.jpg Recognize that dome???

also tren is train in Italian i believe, which is right next to Slovenia.





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Posted by Cassius on Tue Dec 7th at 4:14am 2004

So City 17 is Trieste?



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Posted by Nickelplate on Tue Dec 7th at 4:21am 2004

Looking at the evidence, it would seem so! [addsig]



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Posted by Captain P on Tue Dec 7th at 10:06am 2004

It's a game environment. Influenced by probably several different sites. Not a real city. I mean, when I see a tower flat, I can combine that with an island I've seen on TV and make a level out of it. Both parts are real, just not together...

It's surely an Eastern-Europe setting, correct. But well, now it's just City 17 I guess...
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Posted by satchmo on Tue Dec 7th at 4:56pm 2004

Kinda like "Gotham City" in Batman. Everyone knows what Gotham City looks like (at least all the comic fans), but it doesn't exist anywhere on this planet. It's like the gritty part of a generic metropolis, but with some dark twists (perhaps it exists in our collective nightmare).

City 17 certainly exists in the minds of all the HL2 gamers. It's as real as our consciousness.
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Posted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Tue Dec 7th at 5:07pm 2004

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Kinda like "Gotham City" in Batman. Everyone knows what Gotham City looks like (at least all the comic fans), but it doesn't exist anywhere on this planet. It's like the gritty part of a generic metropolis, but with some dark twists (perhaps it exists in our collective nightmare).


I take offence to that. My nightmares don't feature s**tty plots and ridiculous characters.




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Posted by Andrei on Tue Dec 7th at 9:17pm 2004

The architecture doesn't fit with E.E anyway.

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