The Matrix synopsis originally stolen?
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Re: The Matrix synopsis originally stolen?
Posted by Kage_Prototype on Mon Dec 6th at 8:33pm 2004


...again.

Or is that brother and sister now?

http://www.slccglobelink.com/news/2004/10/28/Entertainment/mother.Of.The.Matrix.Victorious-785067.shtml

[EDIT]: Because of the link's inability to work occasionally:

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Monday, October 4th 2004 ended a six-year dispute involving Sophia Stewart, the Wachowski Brothers, Joel Silver and Warner Brothers. Stewart's allegations, involving copyright infringement and racketeering, were received and acknowledged by the Central District of California, Judge Margaret Morrow residing. Stewart, a New Yorker who has resided in Salt Lake City for the past five years, will recover damages from the films, The Matrix I, II and III, as well as The Terminator and its sequels. She will soon receive one of the biggest payoffs in the history of Hollywood, as the gross receipts of both films and their sequels total over 2.5 billion dollars.

Stewart filed her case in 1999, after viewing the Matrix, which she felt had been based on her manuscript, "The Third Eye," copyrighted in 1981. In the mid-eighties Stewart had submitted her manuscript to an ad placed by the Wachowski Brothers, requesting new sci-fi works. According to court documentation, an FBI investigation discovered that more than thirty minutes had been edited from the original film, in attempt to avoid penalties for copyright infringement. The investigation also stated that "credible witnesses employed at Warner Brothers came forward, claiming that the executives and lawyers had full knowledge that the work in question did not belong to the Wachowski Brothers." These witnesses claimed to have seen Stewart's original work and that it had been "often used during preparation of the motion pictures." The defendants tried, on several occasions, to have Stewart's case dismissed, without success.

Stewart has confronted skepticism on all sides, much of which comes from Matrix fans, who are strangely loyal to the Wachowski Brothers. One on-line forum, entitled Matrix Explained has an entire section devoted to Stewart. Some who have researched her history and writings are open to her story. Others are suspicious and mocking. "It doesn't bother me," said Stewart in a phone interview last week, "I always knew what was true." Some fans, are unaware of the case or they question its legitimacy, due to the fact that it has received little to no media coverage.

Though the case was not made public until October of 2003, Stewart has her own explanation, as quoted at daghettotymz.com: "The reason you have not seen any of this in the media is because Warner Brothers parent company is AOL-Time Warner... this GIANT owns 95 percent of the media... let me give you a clue as to what they own in the media business... New York Times papers/magazines, LA Times papers/magazines, People Magazine, CNN news, Extra, Celebrity Justice, Entertainment Tonight, HBO, New Line Cinema, Dreamworks, Newsweek, Village Roadshow... many, many more!... They are not going to report on themselves. They have been surpressing my case for years..."

Fans who have taken Stewart's allegations seriously, have found eerie mythological parallels, which seem significant in a case that revolves around the highly metaphorical and symbolic Matrix series. Sophia, the greek goddess of wisdom has been referenced many times in speculation about Stewart. In one book about the Goddess Sophia, it reads, "The black goddess is the mistress of web creation spun in her divine matrix." Although there have been outside implications as to racial injustice (Stewart is African American), she does not feel that this is the case. "This is all about the Benjamins," said Stewart. "It's not about money with me. It's about justice." Stewart's future plans involve a record label, entitled Popsilk Records, and a motion picture production company, All Eyez On Me, in reference to God. "I wrote The Third Eye to wake people up, to remind them why God put them here. There's more to life than money," said Stewart. "My whole message to the world is about God and good and about choice, about spirituality prevailing over 'technocracy'." If Stewart represents spirituality, then she truly has prevailed over the "technocracy" represented in both the Terminator and the Matrix, and now, ironically, by their supposed creators.

Stewart is currently having discussions with CBS about a possible exclusive story and has several media engagements in the near future to nationally publicize her victory.
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Re: The Matrix synopsis originally stolen?
Posted by Spartan on Mon Dec 6th at 8:38pm 2004


So this means all those school shootings to free people from the Matrix were for nothing. Dang Namit [addsig]



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Re: The Matrix synopsis originally stolen?
Posted by Nanodeath on Mon Dec 6th at 8:47pm 2004


...that's a lot of money! Heh...interesting point about AOL-Time Warner at the bottom of the first page; just took me a little reminder to remember how friggin' big they are, lol.



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Posted by Nickelplate on Mon Dec 6th at 8:50pm 2004


I was free from the matrix once, It was all gray and depressing.. like bratislava... I asked to come back... [addsig]



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Re: The Matrix synopsis originally stolen?
Posted by Spartan on Mon Dec 6th at 8:59pm 2004


So this women writes a story back in the 80s waits a decade for someone to steal it. Then through a law suit becomes one of the richest people in America! That's friggin awesome by any means. [addsig]



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Posted by Yak_Fighter on Mon Dec 6th at 9:12pm 2004


1. Why the hell is she getting money for the Matrix and Terminator? How exactly are these linked in any way?

2. Now the Wachowski brothers can wipe their hands of Reloaded and Revolutions, since this woman apparently wrote them too.

3. Since we're all sue-happy for some reason, I would like to file a petition on behalf of Descartes, from whom this woman obviously lifted much of her ideas.

I bet her story has a very tenuous connection to the Matrix and has nothing to do with it. Of course though, she must have thought up bullet time and Agent Smith back in 1981, along with Cyberdine and machines that disguise themselves as people in order to infiltrate human outposts...

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Posted by Spartan on Mon Dec 6th at 9:16pm 2004


? quoting Yak_Fighter

I bet her story has a very tenuous connection to the Matrix and has nothing to do with it. Of course though, she must have thought up bullet time and Agent Smith back in 1981, along with Cyberdine and machines that disguise themselves as people in order to infiltrate human outposts...

Yeah because as we all know people back in the 80s had no imaginations.

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Posted by Yak_Fighter on Mon Dec 6th at 9:32pm 2004


I know man. People in the 80s were so square. [addsig]



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Re: The Matrix synopsis originally stolen?
Posted by KungFuSquirrel on Mon Dec 6th at 9:50pm 2004


Yeah, it wasn't until the early 90s that computing power could afford the tris to start rounding off edges. I remember when everyone still looked like that Dire Straits video... [addsig]



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Re: The Matrix synopsis originally stolen?
Posted by Renegatus on Mon Dec 6th at 10:10pm 2004


There is no manuscript. [addsig]



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Posted by BlisTer on Mon Dec 6th at 10:31pm 2004


? quoting Spartan 34
So this women writes a story back in the 80s waits a decade for someone to steal it. Then through a law suit becomes one of the richest people in America! That's friggin awesome by any means.

so she wrote the terminator plot too

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Posted by Dr Brasso on Tue Dec 7th at 12:07am 2004


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I remember when everyone still looked like that Dire Straits video...

lol....i remember their parents... the 60's was beddy beddy gute to me....

Dr Brasso...





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Re: The Matrix synopsis originally stolen?
Posted by Cassius on Tue Dec 7th at 12:11am 2004


? quoting Kage_Prototype
Stewart has her own explanation, as quoted at daghettotymz.com:

The lady must have just written some crap about nuclear apocalypse and revolution against machine overlords.





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Re: The Matrix synopsis originally stolen?
Posted by Agent Smith on Tue Dec 7th at 12:54am 2004


? quoting Yak_Fighter
Of course though, she must have thought up bullet time and Agent Smith back in 1981, along with Cyberdine and machines that disguise themselves as people in order to infiltrate human outposts...

She ripped me off !!!!!!!





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Re: The Matrix synopsis originally stolen?
Posted by Crono on Tue Dec 7th at 1:24am 2004


? quoting Yak_Fighter1. Why the hell is she getting money for the Matrix and Terminator? How exactly are these linked in any way?

2. Now the Wachowski brothers can wipe their hands of Reloaded and Revolutions, since this woman apparently wrote them too.

3. Since we're all sue-happy for some reason, I would like to file a petition on behalf of Descartes, from whom this woman obviously lifted much of her ideas.

I bet her story has a very tenuous connection to the Matrix and has nothing to do with it. Of course though, she must have thought up bullet time and Agent Smith back in 1981, along with Cyberdine and machines that disguise themselves as people in order to infiltrate human outposts...


Don't for get Jean Baudrillard. To be perfectly honest, the first matrix film reflects his work much more then anything she says she used. His article, "Simulacra and Simulation" is quoted in various ways throughout the film.
I have no idea if they actually "stole" the thing from her. Especially if they recieved it by her answering an "Hey, I need some good plot ideas" ad. What exactly did she think they'd use it for?

Yak, don't forget SkyNet. [addsig]




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Re: The Matrix synopsis originally stolen?
Posted by Kain on Tue Dec 7th at 7:40am 2004


Anyway, The Matrix is not as creative as I thought it was. The idea of connecting the brain to a machine projecting a parallel reality, which I thought was awesome, was actually inspired from the movie "eXistenZ" by David Cronenberg. Add to this the Plot of the machines which is apparently also an exterior "inspiration", and give it a 90's look, with black leather and all, and of course appropriate filming effects, and you have Matrix 1. The only thing revolutionary about this movie was mainly the filming technique IMO.





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Posted by Kage_Prototype on Tue Dec 7th at 8:16am 2004


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Anyway, The Matrix is not as creative as I thought it was. The idea of connecting the brain to a machine projecting a parallel reality, which I thought was awesome, was actually inspired from the movie "eXistenZ" by David Cronenberg. Add to this the Plot of the machines which is apparently also an exterior "inspiration", and give it a 90's look, with black leather and all, and of course appropriate filming effects, and you have Matrix 1. The only thing revolutionary about this movie was mainly the filming technique IMO.



Existenz came out around the same time as the matrix, so neither really inspired the other. The Matrix is really just an amalgamation of every major science fiction novel (see: Neuromancer), comic book et al., all wrapped in a visually stunning modern cyberpunk-like package.
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Posted by tom on Tue Dec 7th at 2:53pm 2004


I've spotted at least 5 things the Matrix ripped off of recently. Most noteably 'Total Recall' in which Arnie is in a parralell 'world' VERY similar in concept to the matrix. The last straw is when another character offers Arnie a choice of either a blue pill or a red pill the effects of which are identical to those of the Matrix.




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Posted by Gwil on Tue Dec 7th at 3:44pm 2004


The Matrix is shallow dross, nuff said. It's stolen from just about everything under the sun.. and Cyberdine/dyne as a sci fi thing has been done do to death already.

I'm with Kain, the Matrix is merely a slapdash of bastardised and stolen ideas shot with fancy camerawork and wooden acting, to add to the neo industrial feel. I'd rather poke myself in the eyes with a rusty bread knife than watch it EVER again


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Posted by Mephs on Wed Dec 8th at 5:56am 2004


The idea of a supposed reality within this reality, or maybe the next etc. is a religious idea, and I can see how anyone could possibly be credited for the storyline. If the film didnt turn out to be a SELF IMPOSED cult film, I doubt this Stewart person would give a s**t. It'll never rock our worlds to find out that the flimsy storyline behind kickass special FX was stolen (you could make up a better excuse for pissing the bed!). But at least people now know where to send angry letters titled "Weak plot, the media fooled me....again" to. She's laughing all the way to the bank, the Wachoski bros are crying all the way to their back pocket for spare change.

Tell me "The Greatest Story Ever Told" was written by someone whos going to sucessfully sue and win and THAT is worth attention.

What is the Matrix? I dunno, ooooh loook he's spinning around really fast, ooooooh.
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