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Posted by Cassius on Wed Dec 8th at 6:02am 2004

Taking elements of different stories and making them into something new is not a bad thing.



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Posted by Crono on Wed Dec 8th at 8:16am 2004

? quoting Cassius
Taking elements of different stories and making them into something new is not a bad thing.


No, it's not

Most good films and books are not completely original, there is always a basis for the idea, plot, or even style.

The Odyssey has been "re-based" several times (Sullivan's Travels, Oh Brother, Where Art Thou). The same with The Great Gatsby (Twelve, Fight Club) ... etc. [addsig]



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Posted by Mephs on Wed Dec 8th at 8:19am 2004

Cassius, can you honestly say that The Matrix plot/stolen plot is a case where this applies?

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Posted by Kain on Wed Dec 8th at 9:34am 2004

? quoting Cassius
Taking elements of different stories and making them into something new is not a bad thing.

No it's not, but it should be done in a subtle and surprising way, which is not the case with the Matrix. In Natural Born Killers, they show very cruel scenes, in the beginning, filmed like in a sitcom, with background laughing and all; in 2001 Space Odyssey, they re-use waltz music to express the slow motion of the planets; now that's creative, unexpected! There's no such thing in the Matrix.

Matrix 1 is a good movie, not a cult movie. And the sequels are catastrophic, IMHO of course.





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Posted by Kain on Wed Dec 8th at 9:39am 2004

? quoting Mephs
The idea of a supposed reality within this reality, or maybe the next etc. is a religious idea, and I can see how anyone could possibly be credited for the storyline. If the film didnt turn out to be a SELF IMPOSED cult film, I doubt this Stewart person would give a s**t. It'll never rock our worlds to find out that the flimsy storyline behind kickass special FX was stolen (you could make up a better excuse for pissing the bed!). But at least people now know where to send angry letters titled "Weak plot, the media fooled me....again" to. She's laughing all the way to the bank, the Wachoski bros are crying all the way to their back pocket for spare change.

Tell me "The Greatest Story Ever Told" was written by someone whos going to sucessfully sue and win and THAT is worth attention.

What is the Matrix? I dunno, ooooh loook he's spinning around really fast, ooooooh.

That's another thing I didn't like in the movie, the religious connotations: that feeling of being the Chosen, the One. I'm not used to thinking that way. I hate to say it, but it sounds a bit jewish... you know, the chosen people... why did He chose them, not me???






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