Oh. My. God.
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Posted by Dred_furst on Thu Dec 9th at 3:13pm 2004


you remember killbox, 3way, 2fortdm, yes they were interesting, but when will the fools learn some decent architechure and simple mapping rules, i know its HL2, and not everyone knows how to map, but this is rediculous...

HL2 files have released 2 mappacks of pure crappieness, each with 50 maps included. expect to see 99 killbox clones.

i say 99, as tundra_cool has made boot_camp_tundra_cool and I know hes no noob to mapping...

heres mappack 1 containing, and i quote:
? quoting Planet half life

3rooms, alyx_basketball-b2, barney_gulch, bounce, buildingblocks_b1, buildingblocks_b2, cf_mechwars, cityseventeen_com, convex, crossfire2, db_bunker, discarded_garage, discarded_garage_V2, dm_abandoned_factory, dm_arene_kn, dm_assault, dm_backyard, dm_crossfire, dm_crossfire2_b2, dm_datacore_b1, dm_deathbox7b, dm_dustforce, dm_killbox_beta3, dm_rally_b1a, dm_rally_b2, dm_reactor, dm_unrealstation_B1, domino_effect, e3_c17_01, fall, fy_iceworld, fy_race, highway, hl2_lobby2, hl2dm_arena, hl2dm_petrol, killbox2, nm_motel_dm, playground, prison_grav, rocked_arena, sdk_vehicles, sdk_vehicles_b, station, taz_barrel_launcher, temple2, templev1, xenon_engage, xenon_roofrumblev2, zombies.


and mappack 2:
? quoting Planet Half life

alpha6, apc_bunker, boot_camp, boot_camp_tundra_cool, buildingblocks_b3, deadclan, dissipated_beta1, dm_abandoned, dm_airboat_swamp_b1, dm_arena_duel, dm_bounce_b1, dm_buggy_kn, dm_bunker_valley, dm_burn01, dm_cabinfever, dm_chaintech, dm_chamber, dm_city, dm_closed, dm_concretebunker, dm_creighter, dm_dodgeball-b1, dm_exit, dm_ffm7beta16, dm_frag_dodgeball_v1, dm_freeman, dm_garage, dm_ghtemple_a09, dm_hanger18, dm_kasasu, dm_killbox_final, dm_quad, dm_racetrack, dm_sawblade, dm_urban_siege, dm_waterhazard, dodgeballmkx2, evn_physics_b2, Greentownforest, hl2dm_arena_1a, hl2dm_tower_1a, lws_train1, neighbour-war, phys_ozone, piff, robotwars, robotwars_v3, skyhigh, storage_hq, zombiesv2
all i can say is Oh dear, let the newbs come and LEARN to map...

no doubt, several of those dont have spawn points :/.
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Posted by Neural Scan on Thu Dec 9th at 3:18pm 2004


Someone had to say it (I was going to but you beat me to it )...

It really ticks me off that that kind of crap gets posted on the front page of PHL...

I don't care whether they learn to map or not, just as long as they don't come HERE!





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Posted by mazemaster on Thu Dec 9th at 3:34pm 2004


All the good mappers are working on contest maps...




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Posted by ReNo on Thu Dec 9th at 3:36pm 2004


A single one of those maps wouldn't get posted, its just due to the fact they are big packs. I suggest that once the HL2DM contest is over and the dust settles, we should gather all the entries from here and release them as a big pack. Excluding any that won of course!
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Posted by KungFuSquirrel on Thu Dec 9th at 3:50pm 2004


You act... surprised. First maps for any game generally suck, but they get all the publicity because they exist.

I especially love how these sites just put together map packs of any maps they find on a server, including multiple versions of betas and stuff. Morons. [addsig]




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Posted by Dred_furst on Thu Dec 9th at 6:43pm 2004


I like the new news post
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Posted by Crono on Thu Dec 9th at 6:50pm 2004


ReNo, that's a good idea. [addsig]



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Posted by azelito on Thu Dec 9th at 7:02pm 2004


In 3 months, will anyone remember these maps?

Dont bother, just try and stay away from them!

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Posted by Vash on Thu Dec 9th at 7:41pm 2004


It's time we start doing some TRUTH commercials like the ones on TV against tobacco and cigarette companies.

? quoting Vash, against crappy map-packs
Crappy newbie maps have been spread across the internet since the release of Doom. Every few years, theres a new engine and a new set of tools that these game developers release upon the unsuspecting community, only to have the community find that they have no idea what they are doing yet continue to try and use the tools. My friend has this to ask to all the people out there who make these maps...


? quoting Anonymous
Why do you make maps that totally suck ass and distract the community from quality maps?

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Posted by Andrei on Thu Dec 9th at 8:31pm 2004


Yikes! More killbox crappyness! That makes me, the average mapper, feel superior.

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Posted by diablobasher on Thu Dec 9th at 8:34pm 2004


It makes me *The Mapper that dabbles in being average from time to time* feel great.

Most people just outclass me by so much, these people are just freaks!

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Posted by G.Ballblue on Thu Dec 9th at 9:22pm 2004


What's really sad:

Mappers, like us, (edit/ not trying to make us sound like leetists or anything. Just trying to make a point!) put weeks, maybe monthes, maybe even a year or so into a map, have it come out as absolute brilliance, and nobody plays it!

Killboxes are fun, hell yea, but they're faaaarrrr from being an actual "map".

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Posted by Hugh on Thu Dec 9th at 10:41pm 2004


Ergh, Petrol's been released in that bunch... I'm sure Rabid will be overjoyed... hopefully at least it's not the goddamn source file this time. [addsig]



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Posted by omegaslayer on Fri Dec 10th at 12:15am 2004


? quote:
What's really sad:

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Mappers, like us, (edit/ not trying to make us sound like leetists or anything. Just trying to make a point!) put weeks, maybe monthes, maybe even a year or so into a map, have it come out as absolute brilliance, and nobody plays it!

n

Killboxes are fun, hell yea, but they're faaaarrrr from being an actual "map".

n


wow I think this is the smartest thing you have ever said, congradualtions
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Posted by RabidMonkey777 on Fri Dec 10th at 2:09am 2004


I think it is the source file, as well as the BSP, Hugh.

You can bet your ass I'm happy. Not.

FileFront is being uncooperative in removing the file, too D:. Loads of unreturned emails, and the VP of website ops even told me he'd take down the file when all it seemed to do was make the download link work properly :/

I hate to see my unfinished work released. It does stand above most of those maps in any case, but still - It's a s**tty BSP file.

I figured one of the 300 or so people who d/l'ed it wouldn't leak it to bigger sites. I was mistaken.

To whoever got it up at FileFront, I hope your happy about the fact I'm wasting valuable mapping time on getting this conflict resolved. And I'm risking the fact that the map might not be able to enter the competition since it's been released before.




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Posted by ReNo on Fri Dec 10th at 2:19am 2004


That is really lame Valve most likely wouldn't be aware of the fact its been leaked out there, and you still have plenty of time to make it significantly different to the release that is out there. Even if they did realise it was somewhat released already, I'm sure they would understand your plight - its hardly like you are trying to shove in a map you had already made or something. Hope it all works out mate
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Posted by Spartan on Fri Dec 10th at 2:20am 2004


? quoting RabidMonkey777
I think it is the source file, as well as the BSP, Hugh.

You can bet your ass I'm happy. Not.

FileFront is being uncooperative in removing the file, too D:. Loads of unreturned emails, and the VP of website ops even told me he'd take down the file when all it seemed to do was make the download link work properly :/

I hate to see my unfinished work released. It does stand above most of those maps in any case, but still - It's a s**tty BSP file.

I figured one of the 300 or so people who d/l'ed it wouldn't leak it to bigger sites. I was mistaken.

To whoever got it up at FileFront, I hope your happy about the fact I'm wasting valuable mapping time on getting this conflict resolved. And I'm risking the fact that the map might not be able to enter the competition since it's been released before.

Dude that seriously sucks. I hope you get it resolved and still get the chance to enter the contest. Best of luck.

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Posted by IrishGuinea on Fri Dec 10th at 2:39am 2004


? quoting azelito
In 3 months, will anyone remember these maps?

Dont bother, just try and stay away from them!

Go fire up HL1 on steam and I guarentee the original killbox is still being played.

I played HL1 DM last week for the first time in about a year on some clan server and they had killbox variants (made by them) and assorted other crappy maps. I told them they should go to Snarkpit and get some real maps and i got booted





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Posted by satchmo on Fri Dec 10th at 2:46am 2004


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In 3 months, will anyone remember these maps?

I bet no one in particular will be in anyone's memory, but how can people forget the horror and atrocity committed by these amateur (and immature) mappers? It's an act of terrorism.

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Posted by RabidMonkey777 on Fri Dec 10th at 2:50am 2004


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e3_c17_01


Hmmmm.....

And there's a sdk_vehicles map being played? Yuck!

It seems that the HLDM we remember where all the CS n00bs stayed away, is no more.





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