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Re: Can you ban someone permanently if
Posted by Wild Card on Fri Dec 24th at 5:19am 2004


Im on another forum where theres always the same guy that keeps comming back over and over again spamming the forums and the best the mods can do is ban the user. Since this person is on a proxy they cannot ban his IP.

I was just wondering if anyone knew of a way of permanently banning this person.

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Posted by omegaslayer on Fri Dec 24th at 5:25am 2004


do you log on at this forum? If so just ban his id.
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Posted by SaintGreg on Fri Dec 24th at 5:43am 2004


How big is your community there? If it is large enough, try implementing a 7 day waiting period before you are allowed to post. Sure it will cut down on the number of new people, but nobody is seriously going to wait 7 days just to spam and get banned and wait another 7 days. Depending on what kind of forum it is, this can work very well.




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Posted by Tracer Bullet on Fri Dec 24th at 8:52am 2004


? quoting SaintGreg
How big is your community there? If it is large enough, try implementing a 7 day waiting period before you are allowed to post. Sure it will cut down on the number of new people, but nobody is seriously going to wait 7 days just to spam and get banned and wait another 7 days. Depending on what kind of forum it is, this can work very well.

I beg to differ. Such has happened in the past 'round these parts.

I'm kind of an ignoramus when it comes to this stuff, but is it possible to ban his MAC address? that ought to be a unique key that not just anybody knows how to change...

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Posted by Crono on Fri Dec 24th at 9:36am 2004


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? quoting SaintGreg
How big is your community there? If it is large enough, try implementing a 7 day waiting period before you are allowed to post. Sure it will cut down on the number of new people, but nobody is seriously going to wait 7 days just to spam and get banned and wait another 7 days. Depending on what kind of forum it is, this can work very well.

I beg to differ. Such has happened in the past 'round these parts.

I'm kind of an ignoramus when it comes to this stuff, but is it possible to ban his MAC address? that ought to be a unique key that not just anybody knows how to change...



You can't change it without changing the card (unless you're a hardware genius and has working knowledge of the card).

And yes, I believe you can ban MAC addresses on servers. Not sure about specific sites.


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Posted by Dred_furst on Fri Dec 24th at 9:51am 2004


I say enable email authenticacion and ban by email adress, yes, he can re-register an email, but its a waste of time.
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Posted by mazemaster on Fri Dec 24th at 11:01am 2004


I've had to change the MAC address on my router since my ISP didn't like it. It was no big deal and I didn't have to change the hardware, there are utilities out there for just this purpose. [addsig]



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Posted by Nickelplate on Fri Dec 24th at 1:55pm 2004


How to ban Spammers: Kill them.

Banning MAC addresses is a very effective method, since most computer users don't even know they exist. Many who DO know they exist only know so because they have to have thiers to get thier computer online at thier college. Yet they still may not know what they are and how to change them. Banning MAC addresses can be done with a software called Steel Belted Radius.

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Posted by Leperous on Fri Dec 24th at 5:32pm 2004


The simple solution to this is what I do: just make deleting and banning him quicker (and easier) than the registration process.

First of all, make registering require an e-mail address to activate your account. When he signs up, ban his account (and hence that e-mail address), so that if he wants to come back he has to go through the lengthy process of setting up a new e-mail address, and re-registering on the site. If he does, BAM! kill him again (i.e. have a button that deletes a user and all their posts/topics/PMs etc.) at the touch of a button. Eventually they'll give up.





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Posted by Tracer Bullet on Fri Dec 24th at 6:25pm 2004


I like it! Lep and his mighty KILL BUTTON!

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You can't change it without changing the card (unless you're a hardware genius and has working knowledge of the card).

That's what I always thought too, but I had friends at school who were changing their MAC adress because there was a bug in the school network that had banned theirs by mistake. (don't ask)

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Posted by Andrei on Fri Dec 24th at 6:29pm 2004


The red button of doom. That would be a good idea. Or slaping the user. Each time a "slapped" user posts something, his post would be replaced with an annoying message like "Swearing will hurt my dainty little ears!" or "I have cavities the size of bus-stops.". Feeling annoyed, they will have to leave. And the board users could have some fun, too. [addsig]



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Posted by Crono on Fri Dec 24th at 6:33pm 2004


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I like it! Lep and his mighty KILL BUTTON!

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You can't change it without changing the card (unless you're a hardware genius and has working knowledge of the card).

That's what I always thought too, but I had friends at school who were changing their MAC adress because there was a bug in the school network that had banned theirs by mistake. (don't ask)



Well, as no one noticed, I was implying the ban of his Ethernet card's MAC address not a router. A router acts completely different, but that doesn't seem to stop people from flying off the handle into ape-s**t infinity.

You can change all sorts of crap with a router, it doesn't mean it changes your personal Ethernet card's MAC address.

At PSU if you walk around campus and with your laptop on, if you have a wireless card it will continually try to connect to servers. Since there's so many on campus after, I think, 15 or so attempts it will alert the Admins. They'll think someone is trying to "hack" their systems. Because it could be a generator program that goes to each server trying every possible password.

I'm sorry if this post doesn't make much sense. I've been woken up early smiley


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Posted by Orpheus on Fri Dec 24th at 6:36pm 2004


? quoting Crono

I'm sorry if this post doesn't make much sense. I've been woken up early smiley


prolly all that apes**t fumes

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Posted by omegaslayer on Fri Dec 24th at 7:26pm 2004


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The simple solution to this is what I do: just make deleting and banning him quicker (and easier) than the registration process.

First of all, make registering require an e-mail address to activate your account. When he signs up, ban his account (and hence that e-mail address), so that if he wants to come back he has to go through the lengthy process of setting up a new e-mail address, and re-registering on the site. If he does, BAM! kill him again (i.e. have a button that deletes a user and all their posts/topics/PMs etc.) at the touch of a button. Eventually they'll give up.


How many of those do you have lep?
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Posted by Orpheus on Fri Dec 24th at 7:31pm 2004


? quoting omegaslayer

How many of those do you have lep?

* tentatively raises hand*

at least one.

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Posted by Wild Card on Fri Dec 24th at 11:16pm 2004


Jon even the big red button cant keep you away from this place

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Posted by Gorbachev on Fri Dec 24th at 11:46pm 2004


I thought a MAC address on a NIC was internal (to its own network), as its information is removed when it gets routed and such.
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Posted by Crono on Sat Dec 25th at 12:30am 2004


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I thought a MAC address on a NIC was internal (to its own network), as its information is removed when it gets routed and such.


MAC addresses are just there for hardware registration. (and I'm not sure what you're asking/saying)

I know on private servers (such as wireless ISPs on campuses) you have to register your MAC address so the server will allow you network access. It's just a hardware "signature" if you want to think of it that way. But this is on a physical Ethernet card, not an entire network or a router or anything funked up like that.


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Posted by Gorbachev on Sat Dec 25th at 12:45am 2004


No, I know what you're talking about...but I take networking and so far as I know the MAC address of a specific NIC shouldn't be available across the internet as that address would have been replaced by the last router or switch to carry the data through. So it would make sense in an internal network to have MAC filtering, but I'm saying it shouldn't work over the internet as you wouldn't have access to the MAC address of that other computer.
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Posted by gimpinthesink on Sat Dec 25th at 1:01am 2004


yeh as soon as the data leaves the router and gets to its destination the reply would first look the the address of the router(s) and then when it got into the network it would look specifically for the NIC's MAC address (at leat I can remember something from taking the CCNA carnt remember much else and thak god I didnt have to pay for it) [addsig]




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